Pwhelli Incident

Now hoisted out and on the hard. Boat is an Azimut Megellano 66. May have been on route to Northern Ireland going by it's name.
 
Flyingspanner said:
Yes everyone makes mistakes, its about learning from them, not laughing at them...
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That could (perhaps deserved?) have been me: When we very first began sailing I brought us into Pwhelli marina in a F6 southerly at pretty much low water springs; surfing in on the waves, then making a hard 90* turn to port at the end of and just about the line of the sand bank that's just offshore of that groyne, in the expectation (hope) that the next wave would drive us sideways to land between the two in the entrance channel. It worked, I'm typing this twenty years later, but in the same situation now I'd be heading west in search of sea room and deep (OK, less shallow) water; so at least I learnt from my cock-up.
 
Portofino said:
Good old fashioned paper chart and a read of a pilot book .

Thats what peering down Phaffing with touchscreens does .

I think we saw it with that Pershing off Jersey a while back .

Call me Luddite in terms of dash electrotwackery. :D .Tin hat on .:D

Eyes fwd not down !
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Spot on - I nearly tried to go straight over the Bitches in Ramsey Sound whilst admiring my new plotter that was on the wrong scale so I thought I was some way off, until I looked up!
 
Posters knocking the use of chart plotters and other electronic aids really amuse me. A correctly used chart plotter is every bit as good as a paper chart for route planning and much easier to use while underway. Depending on the setup the amount of valuable information available on a single screen could only be replicated if you had a dedicated navigator with multiple information sources sitting next to the helmsperson. Plenty of ships and boats were running aground before the advent of electronic navigation aids and plenty more will run aground in the future with and without electronic aids. It doesn't matter whether you use charts or a plotter if you're not keeping a proper lookout or don't understand the significance or meaning of markers or lights. Welcome to the 21st century, shipmates.
 
I must appologise I meant to photograph her as I was in Pwllheli viewing a yacht for sale when i saw her high and dry that morning, I was told in the yard that this is not an uncommon sight it is often used as a parking spot. Good to hear she got off all right.
 
Nice “ parking spot “ marked in red here .
It’s normally river wash down so sand / mud , but there could be the odd car there depending on the rains :) .
Well published in the pilot guides and generally they have roving buoys , but after an overnight storm ?

I always read the paper charts and pilot guides if off touring .
Then double check nearer arrival .
With this one the first time I went there was a confusion of yellow buoys not the normal red / grn channel , some red but not exactly to my newbie eyes ordered !
So I just hovered and followed a tripper ferry in , and next day another local bigger boat out .
Been to both marinas many times .
Tbh , I can’t recall what the plotter said as I ignored it = paper only + eye ball entry .
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I would make an exception to my stance on Marinas for that! That looks like a perfect spot to live/holiday home and keep a boat at the same time (y)
 
The lower part is Port Grimaud, the upper Marina on the other side of the river is port Cogolin .
There is property in both .PG by far the superior , a mixed bag from studios to 5 bedder villas with pools + garaging + a 20 m berth at the bottom of your garden .
Busy in the season like AN other holiday hot spot , also out of shot to the LHS are huge camp sites in the pines .Ordinarily no bother , but in the evening swarms of more tourist pour in on foot and bomb out the restaurant’s and piazzas etc .
The narrow streets , the stone become ovens in the baking sun .
Winter and it’s a wind swept gawd awful place with border up shops .
There are stand alone Marina berths as well in both for none property owners .
Generally bay of St Trop is windy as the wind blows right down it heading out .
The best shelter is round the st Trop peninsula to pampolone ( sp ? ) bay .But it full of wanna bee types who go there because all the stars go .Most stars either live in a proper villa nearby with a garden etc or arrive off a charter boat .
Its gets tiring after a while the artificial ness of the place .Geographically it’s nice but ruined imho ( others will disagree ) by the people .As I said nice in small doses .
Anyhow this is a bay you do really need a deep V boat .You will die returning upwind in the afternoon to PG , St Trop or St Maxine when the katabatic wind gets up.
Seen many a bouncing folks and wet hairdos returning .

it’s a nice place to visit by boat * spend a few days along with a day or two in St Trop .
Best bit after days in the st Trop bay is this . Get the hell out of there :)
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* Don’t even countenance arriving by car / road in August 3/4 hr traffic jams .
 
petem said:
I heard from a reliable source that it was brand new, on a delivery trip with pro skipper at the helm.
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I’d love to have been a fly on the wall as the skipper explained to the owner why his/her boat was parked in that spot.
Any news on what damage the boat suffered?
 
petem said:
Blimey, Pwhelli has changed a bit since I was last there!
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They are all over the place theses “ parking spots “ on the CdA and generally in Italy too .
Same principle a Pwhelli a mole built to fend off storms …..somewhere near the entrance .
Beaulieu sur Mer a classic .


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On the face of it two ways in .
The red dot is a reef , maybe small boats use it , ask MC Anderson and DAW of this parish ?
The green is the safe way in .But a newbie who up anchored in ( the blue line ) in Villfranche, unfamiliar and after few lunch drinks ………storm in and well park his boat on the red dotted area .This newbie has a overdue spec savers appointment :) Did not see anything like buoys until it’s too late .
Unless he read the pilot books ?

Theres a few on the Ligurian coast too , moles sea side of the entrance .
 
Portofino said:
Nice “ parking spot “ marked in red here .
It’s normally river wash down so sand / mud , but there could be the odd car there depending on the rains :) .
Well published in the pilot guides and generally they have roving buoys , but after an overnight storm ?

I always read the paper charts and pilot guides if off touring .
Then double check nearer arrival .
With this one the first time I went there was a confusion of yellow buoys not the normal red / grn channel , some red but not exactly to my newbie eyes ordered !
So I just hovered and followed a tripper ferry in , and next day another local bigger boat out .
Been to both marinas many times .
Tbh , I can’t recall what the plotter said as I ignored it = paper only + eye ball entry .
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Where on earth is this?
 
This was the town, Lemmer, next to where we were at a holiday park in Friesland last year, the water to the right edge is the Ijsselmeer, more than half the properties have some kind of direct access to a dock/waterside
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This is the holiday park at Koundam, the canal at the bottom of the pic leads to another small lake and then to the Ijsselmeer.
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The places around there are built around access to the water/canals
 
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