Princess 49

Whitelighter said:
Can someone explain the point of IPS on jack shafts?

I thought that one of the points of IPS was to free up space otherwise taken up by the engines.
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Yes thats true but the other supposed advantage of IPS is fuel efficiency (although thats far from proven in flybridge boats) so I guess that using jackshafts allows the builder to claim that the boat has the balance of a shaftdrive boat with the fuel efficiency of IPS. Actually I also think it depends where the weight of fuel tanks are located. If they are placed forward, then that allows the engines to be further aft but if they are outboard of the engines, as is normal with Brit builders, then the engines may have to be further forward
 
Anders_P42 said:
I'd sooner walk up a couple of steps in saloon, than have to crawl hands and knees in to master cabin bed.

Shame they went with IPS though, why not go with V-drives as with old P50 and keep things simple? Any saving in fuel will end up going straight in to Volvo's pockets on servicing.
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Totally agree with you, no IPS for me definitely. Perfectly happy with my current shaft drive P43, and no worrying high IPS maintneance charges by Volvo....
 
Back to Petem's allegation about different seating levels, I was just sent this, which is the full-size mock-up for the P49 saloon. As you can see, all the saloon seating is at the same level.

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I think the moral of the story here might be to not jump to hasty conclusions based on a single sketch...
 
jimmy_the_builder said:
Back to Petem's allegation about different seating levels, I was just sent this, which is the full-size mock-up for the P49 saloon. As you can see, all the saloon seating is at the same level.

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I think the moral of the story here might be to not jump to hasty conclusions based on a single sketch...
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Port side still looks higher to me, even in your mock up, although I concede could be an optical illusion!

More importantly, how come they're sending you photos of mock ups :)?
 
jimmy_the_builder said:
Back to Petem's allegation about different seating levels, I was just sent this, which is the full-size mock-up for the P49 saloon. As you can see, all the saloon seating is at the same level.

p49%20mockup_800_zps4bdzi87w.jpg


I think the moral of the story here might be to not jump to hasty conclusions based on a single sketch...
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Hmmm now where have I seen that layout before....;)
 
petem said:
Thats got the port side seating higher than starboard too ;)!

Headroom looks tight too or is it ok?
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Honestly Pete, I think it's your eyes! :)
Loads of headroom and the step in the saloon gives plenty below in the master. Princess may as well put in a separate staircase to the master and be done with it!

It's a great layout for us, love the galley aft personally as the cockpit is just there and the smells are easily extracted from the boat. I think that princess could do well if they nail the master cabin.....and keep the boat at a sensible price.
 
They have taken on board forum comments. It is now like a Barret home and you finish the wood at weekends when you get round to it! The cost is of course £100 cheaper so all are happy!
 
curiouskb said:
Totally agree with you, no IPS for me definitely. Perfectly happy with my current shaft drive P43, and no worrying high IPS maintneance charges by Volvo....
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And there's something that doesn't sit right in my mind having forward facing 'exposed' props. Crazy idea if you ask me.

For the pic posted...interesting insight in to how they test a new design. I suppose nothing beats physically sitting somewhere and getting a feel for the layout.
 
Nick_H said:
and that level of finishing .... :D
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:)
Well there is obviously a variance in terms of composites and so on. There's also a difference in price and I imagine dealer and manufacture support.
There's less of a difference when you start looking at components.
What's clear though is that however Prestige finish their boats, and it's fine for an awful lot of customers, it leaves them enough margin to offer outstanding customer support and plenty of change to spend on R&D.
Bottom line Nick is that we were looking at a Fairline or Princess prior to buying our boat but we decided that we were better off buying a boat and offsetting the depreciation by spending the £150k saving on another investment property. We also didn't find the batchelor pad style of the FL/P boats at the time to our taste and we loathed the attitude of the dealers around the boats shows.
So it's horses for courses - but there are plenty of nags nowhere near the Princess or FL track.
 
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+1 I looked at the princess 52 and at £1.2 million it needed to have a diamond steering wheel to justify the difference from a prestige 50 fly.
 
Nigelpickin said:
:)
Well there is obviously a variance in terms of composites and so on. There's also a difference in price and I imagine dealer and manufacture support.
There's less of a difference when you start looking at components.
What's clear though is that however Prestige finish their boats, and it's fine for an awful lot of customers, it leaves them enough margin to offer outstanding customer support and plenty of change to spend on R&D.
Bottom line Nick is that we were looking at a Fairline or Princess prior to buying our boat but we decided that we were better off buying a boat and offsetting the depreciation by spending the £150k saving on another investment property. We also didn't find the batchelor pad style of the FL/P boats at the time to our taste and we loathed the attitude of the dealers around the boats shows.
So it's horses for courses - but there are plenty of nags nowhere near the Princess or FL track.
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To be honest Nigel, I've never been on a Prestige so I have no idea how good or bad the build quality is, I just couldn't resist pulling your leg :D

Mind you, if a Princess 52 really is £1.2m then I may have to get on a Prestige at some stage!
 
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