Princess 49

[petem]

Two steps separating the front and half of the saloon. Yuk....

I guess that's the price for having some headroom over the mid cabin berth.

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Don't agree with you on this one Pete - the advantage here is that the saloon seating is elevated, so you get nice views out, so I'd say this was preferable to a level layout from the galley.

 

[Nick_H]

I'm a big fan of galley aft layouts, but IMHO you need a return on the cabinets so that you don't see directly into the galley from outside the boat, and also so that it doubles up as a bar for the cockpit.

As an aside, I think the squarer portholes off the new 75 look much more up to date, and I reckon Princess should include them on all new models, including this 49.

I agree with JTB about the raised saloon though, and don't have a problem with steps up.

 

[rafiki_]

I don't see a problem with the steps, gains headroom below, and visibility in the saloon. Not a great lover of the aft galley. This is all about gaining cabin space rather than any other advantage, whatever the spin. I really don't want to see too much activity in the galley when I'm lounging, might bring on the odd guilt trip ��

 

[petem]

Apart from tripping over the steps and spilling drinks / food on the way to the dining / seating area, steps up will inevitably mean more steps down to the lower deck. And a raised floor can mean reduced headroom (not an issue for me but might be for my fellow forumites). Finally, it might give the feeling of two pokey areas rather than a single spacious one.

Still, it'll keep owners fit as they go back and forward to the loo.

 

[petem]

Worse still, the port and starboard seating area are on different levels. So if you're sat with friends you'll be looking up or down at them. What were they thinking?

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Worse still, the port and starboard seating area are on different levels. So if you're sat with friends you'll be looking up or down at them. What were they thinking?

Princess owners look down on everyone else, perhaps? Ask Henryf... (no point asking Nick_h, he's about 7ft tall, he already looks down on everyone else)

 

[Nigelpickin]

Apart from tripping over the steps and spilling drinks / food on the way to the dining / seating area, steps up will inevitably mean more steps down to the lower deck. And a raised floor can mean reduced headroom (not an issue for me but might be for my fellow forumites). Finally, it might give the feeling of two pokey areas rather than a single spacious one.

Still, it'll keep owners fit as they go back and forward to the loo.

Id rather have the steps in the saloon and headroom in the master in which to stand up, but each to their own...

 

[Whitelighter]

And all this doesn't make fair lines last effort any less atrocious

 

[Nick_H]

Worse still, the port and starboard seating area are on different levels. So if you're sat with friends you'll be looking up or down at them. What were they thinking?

Are you getting that just from looking at the rendering above, or from some other source? If the former, I'm not sure you're right. If they are on different levels, then I would agree that's a poor design.

 

[petem]

Are you getting that just from looking at the rendering above, or from some other source? If the former, I'm not sure you're right. If they are on different levels, then I would agree that's a poor design.

Just from the rendering.

 

[petem]

And all this doesn't make fair lines last effort any less atrocious

AFAIK there are three approaches to fitting in a full beam mid cabin:

1) Make the boat taller
2) Raise the saloon above the cabin
3) Reduce head room in the mid cabin

You have to compromise one way or another. There is no magic may to defy physics on a boat of this size (c.50ft).

 

[NGM]

Worse still, the port and starboard seating area are on different levels. So if you're sat with friends you'll be looking up or down at them. What were they thinking?

I'm not sure that's right, unless you have other drawings ?

 

[petem]

I'm not sure that's right, unless you have other drawings ?

In have no other drawing. I hope for Princesses sake both sides are on the same level.

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Just from the rendering.

Hmmm. If you look at the top of the seat backs of the dinette and the sofa opposite, they look the same to me. Also, there's no obvious step in this plan:

 

[Nick_H]

Not a great lover of the aft galley. This is all about gaining cabin space rather than any other advantage, whatever the spin.

I think its more of a med thing. You spend most of the time outside, so not having to trapse across the saloon with food, drinks, crockery, condiments etc is a big plus. Also makes the saloon more private on stern to moorings.

 

[petem]

I think you're right, just an iffy rendering.

 

[Bandit]

Think eye line and view from the forward part when seated.

 

[petem]

I think its more of a med thing. You spend most of the time outside, so not having to trapse across the saloon with food, drinks, crockery, condiments etc is a big plus. Also makes the saloon more private on stern to moorings.

I'm with you on that one. Deleted User's boat is brilliant in this respect, the galley is aft and the window to the cockpit is hinged up to the roof so you can serve food on the counter from the galley to the cockpit. I think it may have other panels that can be deployed to fully enclose the galley.

The Princess one is a bit open though.

 

[Anders_P42]

I'd sooner walk up a couple of steps in saloon, than have to crawl hands and knees in to master cabin bed.

Shame they went with IPS though, why not go with V-drives as with old P50 and keep things simple? Any saving in fuel will end up going straight in to Volvo's pockets on servicing.