Prince whatever his name is - Totally NB

I always feel somewhat surprised that people reckon that we are paying for the royal family, and that means that they should be available 24/7 for abuse and deep personal intrusion.

The facts are that the firm have exchanged the revenue from the crown estates for the annual salary. The revenue from the estates is about 3x what they get back, and they volunteered to pay tax on that as well. Furthermore a good proportion of that provides enormous revenue from foreign tourism and trade.

There is no doubt that Prince Harry is a handfull, but why are we surprised - the death of his mother and marital problems with his parents are continually be dragged out whenever the media have a slow news day, so these wounds have never had a chance to heal, thus a rebellious teenager has no chance to grow up and discard his childish ways. If you have ever experienced a trully rebellious tenager, you will know what little degree of control is really possible.

Furthermore To todays youth, the 2nd world war is in the dark ages of history, they are more used to the portrails on Television than any real understanding of the history, and thus the horrors of the camps are possibly not even known by a high proportion of todays youth, after all, how many of the people today actually reallise that the terrors of concentration camps was a british invention and used to great effect in South Africa during the Boer War, and that all the reported genocide around the world is a pale imitation of what Britain achieved in Tasmania, where ethnic cleansing was totally 100% achieved.

Finally how would these stone throwers like it if every little mistake our children made was published around the world. if people are that upset by the use of nazi uniform as fancy dress, why have they not been campaigning to get it banned.

And a a final thought, the very fact that he did wear this uniform hs caused considerably more publicity against the attrocities than would ever have been achieved by normal means
 
<This PC ness really gets up my nose. It is a fancy dress dammit>

Sorry, but my point wasn't intended at the level of PC'ness but rather ignorance and arrogance.

Yes, sure he's young and daft but he also costs our country a not inconsiderable amount of money each year and at the moment this seems to be little more than 'posh yob sponsorship'.

Surely all this cash would be better spent on subsidised moorings!
 
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Do we? I cannot recall Prince Charles using such a phrase.
 
How many of us have done similar type things whilst we were that age!

Maybe we should just give the guy a break let him have a close to normal upbringing as possible. Then maybe he will not make the same mistakes as his father.

So bloody easy for people to throw stones these days! What happened to live and let live etc!!!

Get a grip and remember what it was like to be young you moaning old !!!!!!!!
 
And howzabout poor Sir Mark /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Theres poor old Sir Mark Thatcher being hauled over the coals for an understandable mix-up where he chartered a helicopter thinking it was to be used as an air ambulance when it was to be used for an attempted military coup.

What an admirable humanitarian gesture gone astray! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

By an arms dealer?..........Aye right /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

All goes to show that even the greatest twits can get on. He left school with three o levels, failed his accountancy exams many times yet amasses a fortune in the region of 60 million

Where have I gone wrong?

regards
Cameron
 
My first post, had to be on this.... sigh....

The guy is 19, legally an adult. This isn't to put on and take off whenever, and he's a part of the 'Royal' establishment in which privelige should carry responsibility, but doesn't in reality. Too many scandals to list here, but I am fed up with:
a) Paying for them
b) Indulging them
c) Them
 
I agree totally. I think Charles waived his right to a share of the privy purse some years ago and self funds and pays the appropriate taxes. The origin of his holdings in the Duchy of Lancaster and Cornwall is another subject.

Harry is a kid growing up and we oldies can tut tut at his behaviour but it's a fact of life. He probably doesn't appreciate the implications of the swastika - wasn't there a survey a few weeks ago where only about a third of teenagers knew in which century the second World War took place? The thing that staggers me is that with all the aides, bodyguards etc. that he has, nobody pointed out that his costume was in the worst of taste. Having said that, perhaps they did and as many teenagers do he chose to ignore the advice.
 
Think its all down to having the right mother (or grandmother)!

FWIW my thoughts are that had this fancy dress thing been an isolated incident it probably would have been laughed off. However it does come after a series of incidents and the pattern of behaviour is reflecting a character that people do'nt like. Coming from his background he & his family are being paid as a public representatives. With the exception of grannie & Annie (always fancied her) as PR they would have been sacked by any commercial firm. We in Britain do seem to put up with idiots,buffoons & incompetents both as our public face and public administrators. Why is that?
 
I don't entirely disagree with what you're saying, but there is something particularly unedifying about Harry. I'm not the kind of person who hurls abuse at the Royal Family indiscriminately and there are some - Princess Anne springs to mind - who work hard and to whom I don't grudge the money that they are paid, even if - or perhaps because - they aren't the world's greatest exponents of tact and diplomacy.

Yes, he's had a tough childhood but the fact is that many have had worse - including many millions of people who lost a bit more than their mothers in the Holocaust - and managed to avoid behaving like a total wally. I agree that his generation don't know enough about the Nazis and I think they should understand more: in the words of the old cliche, "Those who forget the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them". However, I fear that the only way I could get the message across to Harry would be to turn up at his birthday party in a Diana mask, with fake blood on my shirt and a Mercedes symbol glued to the top of my head.

I understand what you're saying about the Crown Estates but, in my book, that's public money.
 
Is there a distinction between the 2nd World War German army and the Nazi Party?

Prince Harry supposedly wore the uniform of an Africa Korp officer.
Was the swatzica (can't spell) armband a normal part of the uniform or is it solely a
Nazi emblem ?

Duke.
 
The Swastika armband as I understand it was not part of the uniform but worn by paid up Nazi party members only.
 
There was definitely a distinction between the two. You didn't need to be a member of the Nazi party to be in the German Army, though I'd guess it was compulsory if (for example) you wanted to be in the SS.

I think Jimi is correct in saying that the Swastika was primarily the symbol of the Nazi Party, but it was also integrated into the German Flag at some point. I have a 1930's copy of Pear's Cyclopaedia which shows the German Flag, defaced with a swastika (presumably no Admiralty warrant needed!). I'm no historian, or couturier, so I don't know who did and didn't display it on their uniforms. The Afrika Korps was Rommel's Desert Army and, again, I don't think party membership was a pre requirement.
 
I find myself (almost) speechless with indifference on this subject. But what does irritate is that here we have another example of the media trying to rouse a response and tell us all how shocked we should be.

Some pratt does something slightly foolish and that's news?????
 
"Harry is a kid growing up" Well, he's 20 (pedantic perhaps, but therefore not a teenager or a kid). Immature he might be.

Harry was educated at Eton and managed to achieve B grade A level in art and a D in geography. His brother achieved one more A level but hardly a sparkling set of results given the quality of the education he too received. Magically William's grades merited a place at St. Andrews and Harry (until today perhaps) is to gain a place at Sandhurst. Both these places have inevitably pushed out better candidates.
So they might be a bit thick too.

But to dress up in a German Africa Corps uniform complete with swastika is more than just naive, its at best arrogant. It might have been funny to dress up as Biffo the bear or to wear a tutu but for someone with the job he has to dress up as he did is plain stupid. It's not just being PC to say its inappropriate, it's common sense.
Perhaps at the next party he'll dress up as Dopey.
 
Should Harry be sensitive to how offensive this behaviour might be to others? Well, as a Royal, yes i think he should be, and I ll settle for the incident being unfortunate. But as a 19 year old, should he be ? No, i dont see why. He is one of the generations that will move on. I think many before him already have. I m do not mean to belittle the monstrosity of what took place, but already for many this is something in the history books, not an event in their lives. And they wont,understandably,react the same to it.
 
Prat Harry is 19 and therefore not a kid. He hasn't even the guts to make a public apology himself, leaving it to Clarence House issue this masterful piece of understatement:

'Prince Harry has apologised for any offence or embarrassment he has caused. He realises it was a poor choice of costume.

The BBC report says 'The picture was taken at the weekend at a friend's birthday party in Wiltshire, which had the fancy dress theme "colonial and native"'.

What a wonderful insight into the lives of our betters.

Meanwhile I see that "Scratcher" has managed to do a deal that may get him out of South Africa. Hope he didn't have to make a very "dirty deal" as some of his pals might not take too kindly to being grassed up.
 
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