Malish
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Happen to recall the price?
Price of red diesel at marinas
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Koeketiene
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Fox's have always had a diesel pump in the 27 years we have been there. On the port side long pontoon as you enter the marina.....so you may have missed it....
Quite - I remember now.
Though I don't recall ever filling up there.
Similar experience as Lucky Duck (#14).
When we were Orwell based, we mainly used to fill up at SYH.
Stopped doing that once the EU red/white stink kicked off.
Then onward we fueled white diesel in either Nieuwpoort or Blankenberge.
Guapa's tank held 400ltr - so never took on fuel more than once per year.
Blue Seas
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Without wishing to drift the thread too much, could somebody give me a quick update on how EU countries are now viewing any traces of red in UK reg boat tanks? (in practice rather than in theory).
Ta.
Ta.
Rappey
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I believe we are paying full tax on red diesel nowadays and 5% tax for heating use, hence the supposed 60/40 split.
Even with the 60/40 a litre of diesel can be cheaper on a forecourt.
I would assume you need a receipt for your tank of fuel to prove you paid the full taxation rate if challenged ?
PeterBoater
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The 40% part is for heating, electricity generation (and cooking if applicable) on diesel-propelled boats. Don't ask me what the split, if any, is for diesel-electric boats.
PeterBoater
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I think it has all died down; certainly no mention of the issue in France this year. I believe that the fines etc imposed on individual boats, particularly by Belgian jobsworths, were themselves illegal, in that the beef was/is between the EU and the UK Government, not with individual boats. I don't know whether the fines were refunded; they ought to have been.
PaulRainbow
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The fines were not illegal. The offence was using marked fuel, red diesel is marked fuel.
PeterBoater
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I bow to your greater knowledge of the 1990 Istanbul Convention Red Diesel Abroad .
Blue Seas
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To emphasise, I do not wish to drift the thread, so I'll try to re-phrase my question to avoid EU regulation issues etc.
So, has anybody got any actual real world experience of visiting the EU (say Belgium, Holland France etc.) over the last year or two and experienced any inspection issues with Red? I'm talking about short visits, transits etc. Good or bad reports welcome.
So, has anybody got any actual real world experience of visiting the EU (say Belgium, Holland France etc.) over the last year or two and experienced any inspection issues with Red? I'm talking about short visits, transits etc. Good or bad reports welcome.
Biggles Wader
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Nothing much has changed there. If you are a UK resident on a UK registered vessel and you bought your marked bunker fuel in the UK you are within the rules.
However, if you are prosecuted in an EU country for having marked fuel in your fuel tank you don't have any recourse against that action, only your government can do that.
I'm not aware of this actually happening recently but it certainly did happen several times a few years ago around Brexit time.
PeterBoater
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As I wrote, went to France this year and was not inspected nor asked.
PaulRainbow
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Rappey
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You can have 100 % "for heating" if you want but you have to sign a customs decleration otherwise everyone seems to automatically get a supposed 60/40 split
Hadenough
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Have they reintroduced the red diesel pumps then? They were taken away in 2022. I haven’t tried since though.
Edit, did you fill at SYH or Morrisons?
oldgit
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RCC price to club members £1.00. 60/40 only.
John_Silver
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No interest, in diesel colour, in French ports. (Dieppe-Hendaye). Spend 5-6 months cruising that stretch each summer. And habitually top my main tank off from cans. Once, while chatting with a Douane, in Roscoff…
Ditto on N coast of Spain
Did meet a Dutch based skipper (in Eastbourne this September) looking to give away a can of red prior to heading home, for fear of a €500 fine. He commented that he would be avoiding Nieuwpoort, to check back into Schengen, wary of having his main tank dipped, if he arrived from the UK.
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snowbird30ds
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Are they as easy about mobo's or is it just raggies they ignore?
adamstjohn
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Apologies, dont think i have been clear, we filled at SYH. I think it was higher than 1.71 think it was 1.78. If you were filling a big tank it would be scary compared to the other marina prices quoted.
adamstjohn
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Yes apologies, i realise i had not been clear with that, it was at SYH.Have they reintroduced the red diesel pumps then? They were taken away in 2022. I haven’t tried since though.
Edit, did you fill at SYH or Morrisons?
