Power Boat Level 2.

[Alistairr]

Well the time has come for SWMBO and i to do our power boating level 2 training this weekend. But ........ Something is bothering me, A lot of people have told me lately that its not worth doing, That its all basic and things that you'll have learnt yourself. Is this true? Is it worthwhile doing it? Does the end qualification bennefit you in any way? And do you require it before going for the ICC?

I think i still want to go ahead and do it, but am very unsure what to expect!!!!!!

So any views or tips on the subject would be much appreciated.

Cheers...

Alistair....



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[pheran]

Don't know anything about the practical content of PB2 or whether it will teach you anything. But....if you are using it as a route to an ICC, be warned by the experience of a friend of mine. PB2 will NOT give you the CEVNI endorsement on your ICC (this is the only ICC you need really and then only if you are taking your boat into continental inland waters)) Friend, having done PB 1 & 2 found he then had to take the Inland Waterways Helmsmans Certificate to get the full ICC. Hope this helps.

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[duncan]

a point well made but as it's only a 8 or 10 question test you should be able to agree that wherever you are doing the level 2 includes that as part of the consideration! You wil lneed to include that as part of your 'where should I go' factors.

Right now the RYA is renewing ICCs that were done when CEVNI was know about but not formally part of the ICC sylabus. An interesting example of you don't have to have it so you can't include itoptionally either.The school I went to taught it, adn tested me on it, including comment to that effect on the form passed to the RYA at the time. As I had inland ticked on the cert I thought no more about it. However I am now advised that I have to do the test (and pay the 20) as I had not done the subsequently formally introduced test. I am still rummaging around to find my subsequent DS theory pass cert 'cos I am sure that included it!

There's life - and then there's bureaucracy............

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[Alistairr]

BLIMMEY!!!!!!

So what is CEVNI? That one's new to me???





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[pheran]

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CEVNI! Essentially the 'highway code' for European inland waterways which as you will appreciate, are far more extensive and commercially used than those in the UK. An ICC with CEVNI endorsement is mandatory on the inland waterways and, yes, I have been asked to produce mine along with the ships papers on three or four occasions. By and large, you don't need to bother if all you are doing is visiting coastal ports (unless you happen to meet a particularly officious Frenchman). If you do decide to take the test it shouldn't cause you any problems. Its mainly about learning and recognising the 'road' signs.

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[TwoStroke]

Copy of test that I took last September.

I found the slow manouvering has come in very handy around the marina and also very testing.

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[andyball]

"before going for the icc" ??

If I understand the icc application form correctly, the rya'll give you an icc if you show 'em your soon to be acquired national power boat certificate,level 2.

If you want it valid for foreign inland waters....you have to do the multiple -choice written test (cevni endorsement).

Relevant form/faqs are <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.rya.org.uk/faqs.asp?faqCategory=1020414>here</A>

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[SteveJ]

Powerboat level 2 is a worthwhile course to do, you will learn something from the instructor we are not al perfect at boat handling. I will always take the boat handling further if the students are doing well, it also means that you will gain more from the theory part of the course as well. the cevni test is a written paper that takes approx 10min. You only need to do the cevni if you re planning to use your boat on inland waterways abroad. once you have completed the level 2 course it will alow you to apply for the ICC from the RYA.

I suggest you go with an open mind to the level 2 course as you will learn somethingn

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[Duster]

I am sure that you will get benefit from the course and just as important , even though you are already reasonably competant there will still be some points that are usefull - possibly the correct way to tow or be towed. When I did it , we used the school boats for most of it , but two of us took our own boats to practice some of the manouvers with the instructors on the second afternoon.
The level 2 course will also allow you to go on and do the advanced powerboat course and test (which has commercial recognition) . I can fully recomend this course as usefull and seriouse fun! I did mine in your part of the country (near Oban) with Seatrek Training who were superb. They will also do "custom training" , I wanted to build my ability and confidence in more difficult weather conditions so they arranged a couple of days out in a force 5/6 with spring tides and a moderate to rough sea state . Properly handled even relatively small boats will handle rougher water than any of use would chose to be out in.
Regards mikej


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[BrendanS]

I'm off on a weeks holiday shortly, and have arranged what I've been trying to do for a few years, and combining a week off with a training course. Staying in a cottage near Salcombe for a week, and 3 days training.

Most of the schools I contacted advised the same thing, one day doing a shortened version of the level II, to assess competancy and iron out any wrinkles and take test, then two days doing the full Advanced.

I made sure they were aware of what I wanted, not a piece of paper at the end, but a critique of my abilities and sorting out any shortcomings.

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[whisper]

Let me know when you are doing manouvres so I can stay/keep away /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
Are you going with Salcombe Power Boat School, if so then I'm very interested in how you get on as I've been thinking of trying them out myself in our own boat. Strangely enough the former owner of the school had the same name as me and I sometimes got his bills from local traders.
Hope you have a good time.

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[BrendanS]

Yes, the Salcombe lot.
You mean Jon Clift - that's who I originally talked to about going there - that was a good few years ago

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[whisper]

Yes, but the poor soul can't spell John correctly. I'm not sure if he still has an interest in the business or not. An aquaintance of mine went on one of his long RIB trips a while ago and his back still hasn't recovered.

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[Duster]

Hope you enjoy it as much as I did, I am sure you will . The night exercise was my first trip afloat in the dark and was excellant. Just ensure that you have suitable clothing for it if you are using an open boat. It gets very cold on the water after dark even in summer.
Regards mikej


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[BrendanS]

Yes, I love night trips. Frequently go out to Yarmouth or Cowes weekday evenings, then run home in the dark, the Solent usually totally flat and not another boat to be seen.

I can still remember my first one though - Cowes Fireworks night a few years ago. Hundreds of boats all zipping around in the dark - quite an introduction to night boating!!!

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