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petery
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Re: Vancouver 27
Have had one for a couple of years now and am very happy with it. Needs a good blow to get going but feels very safe in a F7. Cutter rig with a yankee makes it easy for an old man like me to handle and balance the boat. Difficult going astern under power.. but it might be me.
... and its built like a brick s**t house. A 700 ton dredger hit mine at 2 knots against another boat and a pontoon last year - it sunk the boat alongside me; did £20k damage to the metal pontoon but only did minor gelcoat damage to the Vancouver. Got the work done by Northshore who, I believe, moulded the hull for Phaeon 25 years ago and still make the 28. After 25 years the gelcoat is pristine.
However - some boats were fitted out by amateurs, so the insides often don't impress SWMBO. I have a three berth version (5 with pipe cots) which is not really a family boat. The 4 berth versions fetch more money.
Keep it at Littlehampton. PM me if you want to have a sail.
Do a Google search on Rusalka Mist for a great web site on owning a Vancouver 28. I think the 28 has a little more freeboard and a balanced rudder.
All the specs for the 27 and 28 are on the Northshore web site.
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Have had one for a couple of years now and am very happy with it. Needs a good blow to get going but feels very safe in a F7. Cutter rig with a yankee makes it easy for an old man like me to handle and balance the boat. Difficult going astern under power.. but it might be me.
... and its built like a brick s**t house. A 700 ton dredger hit mine at 2 knots against another boat and a pontoon last year - it sunk the boat alongside me; did £20k damage to the metal pontoon but only did minor gelcoat damage to the Vancouver. Got the work done by Northshore who, I believe, moulded the hull for Phaeon 25 years ago and still make the 28. After 25 years the gelcoat is pristine.
However - some boats were fitted out by amateurs, so the insides often don't impress SWMBO. I have a three berth version (5 with pipe cots) which is not really a family boat. The 4 berth versions fetch more money.
Keep it at Littlehampton. PM me if you want to have a sail.
Do a Google search on Rusalka Mist for a great web site on owning a Vancouver 28. I think the 28 has a little more freeboard and a balanced rudder.
All the specs for the 27 and 28 are on the Northshore web site.
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kilkerr1
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Re: Vancouver 27
Rusalka Mist is <A target="_blank" HREF=http://kilkerr.members.easyspace.com/santateresa_pics.htm>Santa Teresa and other t'ings
Rusalka Mist is <A target="_blank" HREF=http://kilkerr.members.easyspace.com/santateresa_pics.htm>Santa Teresa and other t'ings
petery
Well-Known Member
Re: Vancouver 27
Is she in Brighton Marina?
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Is she in Brighton Marina?
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Goldie
Well-Known Member
Re: Vancouver 27
Sailing Today did a 6 page secondhand review in issue number 70 (Feb 03). Mainly refers (obviously) to the 28, but some history of the 27 and modifications to make it a 28.
Reagrds.
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Sailing Today did a 6 page secondhand review in issue number 70 (Feb 03). Mainly refers (obviously) to the 28, but some history of the 27 and modifications to make it a 28.
Reagrds.
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Goldie
Well-Known Member
Re: Vancouver 27
Sailing Today did a 6 page secondhand review of the Vancouver 28 in issue number 70 (Feb 03). Mainly refers (obviously) to the 28, but some history of the 27 and modifications to make it a 28.
Reagrds.
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Sailing Today did a 6 page secondhand review of the Vancouver 28 in issue number 70 (Feb 03). Mainly refers (obviously) to the 28, but some history of the 27 and modifications to make it a 28.
Reagrds.
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oldsalt
Well-Known Member
Re: Vancouver 27
Done a few offshore trips in a Pheon built 27. Superb quality, not fast, especially to windward but will look after you in anything. Cutter rig makes sail handling very easy, but the model that I sailed on had the jib and staysail tracks too far outboard to allow good pointing. The Northshore built ones are good but not to the same standard. Go for it!
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Done a few offshore trips in a Pheon built 27. Superb quality, not fast, especially to windward but will look after you in anything. Cutter rig makes sail handling very easy, but the model that I sailed on had the jib and staysail tracks too far outboard to allow good pointing. The Northshore built ones are good but not to the same standard. Go for it!
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Re: Vancouver 27
Have checked out a few with a view to purchase 2 years ago...
The cutter rig adds complexity and the benefit is debatable on this size of vessel for home waters cruising.
The whole rig seems too far forward to my eye, I think Sailing Today commented on lee helm but their test vessel had a small main due to in-mast furling.
Narrow awkward side decks I recall, particularly with the extra sheet tracks. Cockpit to side-deck movement almost dangerous when a spray hood is up.
The teak laid decks are likely to be on the asset/liability boundary for average aged 27's.
I think the heads forward arrangement is ideal for crews upto 3. The heads, saloon, galley and nav area all seem to belong to a longer boat. Loads more space than the Francis 26.
High quality of finish below, lots of thought in the every day details.
Perhaps a big roach fully battened main plus a code 0 gennaker on a short bowsprit could sort out the inherently under powered rig.
It is a great shame so many excellent yachts of that era are cursed by small sail plans.
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Have checked out a few with a view to purchase 2 years ago...
The cutter rig adds complexity and the benefit is debatable on this size of vessel for home waters cruising.
The whole rig seems too far forward to my eye, I think Sailing Today commented on lee helm but their test vessel had a small main due to in-mast furling.
Narrow awkward side decks I recall, particularly with the extra sheet tracks. Cockpit to side-deck movement almost dangerous when a spray hood is up.
The teak laid decks are likely to be on the asset/liability boundary for average aged 27's.
I think the heads forward arrangement is ideal for crews upto 3. The heads, saloon, galley and nav area all seem to belong to a longer boat. Loads more space than the Francis 26.
High quality of finish below, lots of thought in the every day details.
Perhaps a big roach fully battened main plus a code 0 gennaker on a short bowsprit could sort out the inherently under powered rig.
It is a great shame so many excellent yachts of that era are cursed by small sail plans.
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oldsalt
Well-Known Member
Re: Vancouver 27
I partially agree. THe cutter rig may not be efficient to windward, but it's great for short handed cruising. I've never suffered from lee helm, but I agree that the boat is underpowered. The side decks are OK. Teak decks are for poseurs only. The forward bog is fantastic in heavy weather. Basically the Vancouver is the complete opposite of a Bavaria.
I'll take theVancouver any day!
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I partially agree. THe cutter rig may not be efficient to windward, but it's great for short handed cruising. I've never suffered from lee helm, but I agree that the boat is underpowered. The side decks are OK. Teak decks are for poseurs only. The forward bog is fantastic in heavy weather. Basically the Vancouver is the complete opposite of a Bavaria.
I'll take theVancouver any day!
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