Port Solent Sunsail boats on the move
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capnsensible
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I should have been arriving in Guatemala now to deliver a yacht to UK. 
That would have made my bank happy........
That would have made my bank happy........
xyachtdave
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I’ve been involved 3 times helping inexperienced friends deliver new (to them) boats home, relatively short distances, Solent to East Coast, under 200 miles.
It never occurred to me I could be on the receiving end of a claim if things went wrong!
I’d also add I’ve already come to the conclusion I won’t be doing it again, it’s always hassle. The bargain buys, usually been up for sale 5 years and had no love at all in the last decade, launched and brought home in a gale in the winter.
I suggest day sailing it first to make a list of things that are broken and fix them before leaving?
‘I’ve only got 2 days off work, let’s go!’
Or arguing with a good mate about not leaving without at least a basic set of engine spares and some tools aboard his £200k purchase was a highlight.
I suggested ‘We’ll look like a right couple of idiots if we need a lifeboat for an impeller or fuel filter, or worse can’t change them because there’s not so much a screwdriver on board,’
The reply, ‘They said it’d just been serviced, let’s go!’
It never occurred to me I could be on the receiving end of a claim if things went wrong!
I’d also add I’ve already come to the conclusion I won’t be doing it again, it’s always hassle. The bargain buys, usually been up for sale 5 years and had no love at all in the last decade, launched and brought home in a gale in the winter.
I suggest day sailing it first to make a list of things that are broken and fix them before leaving?
‘I’ve only got 2 days off work, let’s go!’
Or arguing with a good mate about not leaving without at least a basic set of engine spares and some tools aboard his £200k purchase was a highlight.
I suggested ‘We’ll look like a right couple of idiots if we need a lifeboat for an impeller or fuel filter, or worse can’t change them because there’s not so much a screwdriver on board,’
The reply, ‘They said it’d just been serviced, let’s go!’
Sharky34
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I have experience of it happening, just because you haven't, doesn't mean it doesn't.
Bankers take holidays like the rest of us, particularly during the summer months..
dom
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Presumably you didn't offer yourself in a professional capacity, and weren't paid aside from costs?
If so, the risk would be minimal, nothing to do with PI, and no different to a crew on any other sailing trip.
laika
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How many times and in what context? Are you sure you're not expanding an instance of someone taking a boat a short distance for an acquaintance for beer money into "lots of people" undermining the commercial delivery industry?
People employing a commercial delivery skipper don't usually want to wait until a the skipper takes their summer holiday, you don't know what the weather's going to be a month in advance, and I find it unlikely that the average banker is going to waste half their annual leave booking a sufficiently large window for a short delivery when they could be chartering in the maldives
laika
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How do you tell if your delivery skipper is actually just a moonlighting city type?
xyachtdave
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No payment or costs, I probably stood my round at the bar when it was all over.
I’ll be leaving the deliveries to CaptainSensible from now on!
JumbleDuck
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Dear God. Can you imagine the City doing to yachts what it does to the economy? The RNLI couldn't keep up.
Sharky34
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I don't really care if you believe it, I know it happens.
dom
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I'm hearing Premiership footballers are offering even bigger reductions, not to mention Branson Yacht Deliveries, or Putin's Baltic Services.
Amazing!
Sharky34
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'Part-timers, only emerging during the 'good weather' summer season, have been a PITA for pro sailors for years.I'm hearing Premiership footballers are offering even bigger reductions, not to mention Branson Yacht Deliveries, or Putin's Baltic Services.
Amazing!
Mock if you like, but they are taking work away .
JumbleDuck
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Meh. You could equally well say that the pros are trying to make money out of people's hobby. Unless you employ a full time professional crew for your boat - if you have one - and always hire an electrician when a fuse needs changed, you haven't a moral leg to stand on.
laika
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odd that no actual delivery skippers have mentioned this to me as being a scourge of the industry. I could sympathise with the statement that people working for free simply to gain experience limits those who work in the industry to people with other sources of income. I recall jumbleduck being quite vocal on that point a couple of years back. I think you'd get less support from delivery companies though
What proportion of delivery skippers that you know didn't have another source of income while building their professional cv?
If it's legal and there's no deception involved I'm simply failing to see the problem. Anyone who wants a boat delivered reliably by someone with vast experience will check out a potential skipper's CV and pay for the security of vast experience or find someone that *does* have the appropriate experience. If they want to do it on the cheap are you saying someone with appropriate qualifications shouldn't do it for a few beers for a mate? Your city fellah...how did the person you know who hired him or her know them/find them?
I'm still not convinced that there's a vast army of city traders waiting to deliver your boat for £50/day however. Is there a web site where they advertise?
dom
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Indeed, hard to see even for associates:
What's the Best Paying Bank in the City of London? [Salary Stats]
Sharky34
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As said before, I don't really care what you believe, it happens.odd that no actual delivery skippers have mentioned this to me as being a scourge of the industry. I could sympathise with the statement that people working for free simply to gain experience limits those who work in the industry to people with other sources of income. I recall jumbleduck being quite vocal on that point a couple of years back. I think you'd get less support from delivery companies though
What proportion of delivery skippers that you know didn't have another source of income while building their professional cv?
If it's legal and there's no deception involved I'm simply failing to see the problem. Anyone who wants a boat delivered reliably by someone with vast experience will check out a potential skipper's CV and pay for the security of vast experience or find someone that *does* have the appropriate experience. If they want to do it on the cheap are you saying someone with appropriate qualifications shouldn't do it for a few beers for a mate? Your city fellah...how did the person you know who hired him or her know them/find them?
I'm still not convinced that there's a vast army of city traders waiting to deliver your boat for £50/day however. Is there a web site where they advertise?
JumbleDuck
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Who cares if it does? The amateur yachting community does not owe professional skippers a living.
Sharky34
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Of course not, but would you be happy with a dentist who just happens to have the right bits of paper, but only gets hands on a couple of times a year, or would you prefer someone who is doing it every day?
awol
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Then there are the commercially endorsed Yachtmasters complete with medical certs, updated medical courses, etc. who moonlight as city traders on their quiet watches and days off. They must do, otherwise how can they afford to work for Sunsail?
JumbleDuck
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What a strange comparison.