saltwater_gypsy
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........and another thread bites the dust..........what was the question anyway?
Poor etiquette over shore power - Happy Dolphin School of Sailing
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absit_omen
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In my marina a few weeks ago a several million pound MOBO arrived. The owner unwrapped his shore power cable (the circumference of my wrist) unplugged me and fitted his plug. There were other sockets available but that would have meant him shelling out for a card.
Bollox to etiquette. I jumped up the companionway like a rat up a drain and screamed "OI, THATS MY BLOODY POWER".
He looked back, red faced and said "Oh, sorry, I was, erm, just testing my plug......."
Right, yeah.
Bollox to etiquette. I jumped up the companionway like a rat up a drain and screamed "OI, THATS MY BLOODY POWER".
He looked back, red faced and said "Oh, sorry, I was, erm, just testing my plug......."
Right, yeah.
PeterGibbs
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Let me try to assist, and save you from disappointment in your endeavour.
Start a string of your own - look to the top of the page for how to do it - it's easy. Then you will get maximum response from those interested.
You pose an academic question: it will get a better response if you couch the question in more detailed and specific options - otherwise responses will range all over the place.
Finally, and this applies to many students I have had to deal with, do remember that expressing yourself fully in received English (not text language) will engage a more reflective response, particularly urgent if this has not sunk in by the third year of study...!
PWG
Start a string of your own - look to the top of the page for how to do it - it's easy. Then you will get maximum response from those interested.
You pose an academic question: it will get a better response if you couch the question in more detailed and specific options - otherwise responses will range all over the place.
Finally, and this applies to many students I have had to deal with, do remember that expressing yourself fully in received English (not text language) will engage a more reflective response, particularly urgent if this has not sunk in by the third year of study...!
PWG
snowleopard
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Did you hear about the [insert chosen ethnic minority] who applied for a job and was told "Fill in the questionnaire" so he went downstairs and punched the doorman.
Adaero
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Did you hear about the [insert chosen ethnic minority] who applied for a job and was told "Fill in the questionnaire" so he went downstairs and punched the doorman.
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He must have been a Cornishman then /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Did you hear about the [insert chosen ethnic minority] who applied for a job and was told "Fill in the questionnaire" so he went downstairs and punched the doorman.
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He must have been a Cornishman then /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
snowleopard
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It's a source of constant aggravation in harbours. in an ideal world there would be a dedicated socket for each boat.
In the yard where I lay up there are half the number of sockets needed. The supply is on prepayment meters and every meter has 2 outlets so there's always a question of whether you have contributed your fair share. Then you feed the meter and go home, returning to find someone has unplugged you and used up your units.
The worst one was in Inverness in winter when we went out on an icy Saturday for a day trip and came back to find our berth and power supply had been taken so no heating on board till Monday.
In the Caribbean it is common to have metered water supplies for each berth. Locals feel they are entitled to disconnect your tap and use the water you are paying for.
In the yard where I lay up there are half the number of sockets needed. The supply is on prepayment meters and every meter has 2 outlets so there's always a question of whether you have contributed your fair share. Then you feed the meter and go home, returning to find someone has unplugged you and used up your units.
The worst one was in Inverness in winter when we went out on an icy Saturday for a day trip and came back to find our berth and power supply had been taken so no heating on board till Monday.
In the Caribbean it is common to have metered water supplies for each berth. Locals feel they are entitled to disconnect your tap and use the water you are paying for.
jimbouy
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Seems to me there are never enough shore power sockets and more of us should carry doublers...
In some ways it's better when the shore power is a paid for extra as then every one knows where they stand.
Whilst I agree what was done, is on the face of it a bit off, I am Struggling with two elements of your original post.
"last available power connection and duly put on the heater and fridge! We then went out for the rest of the day."
AND
"No message left for us, no apology and not even anyone staying on the boat."
In some ways it's better when the shore power is a paid for extra as then every one knows where they stand.
Whilst I agree what was done, is on the face of it a bit off, I am Struggling with two elements of your original post.
"last available power connection and duly put on the heater and fridge! We then went out for the rest of the day."
AND
"No message left for us, no apology and not even anyone staying on the boat."
Refueler
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Just a few questions ? (Cause it's not usual - well not I've seen anyway ) to be unplugged without reason....
a) Did you pay at Office for shore power ?
b) Was the power point adjacent / to serve your berth ?
c) Was the power point adjacent to the "offenders berth" ?
d) Do you think that maybe he had same thoughts ... "and not even anyone staying on the boat" .......
I have to comment that if more than one or two stuck heaters and fridge on in some marinas - the main trip would go !!
Well you know the answer next time ----- have a Y split power adaptor - then you and he can enjoy 240v luxury.
Oh and I've known millionaires have real tatty boats !! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
a) Did you pay at Office for shore power ?
b) Was the power point adjacent / to serve your berth ?
c) Was the power point adjacent to the "offenders berth" ?
d) Do you think that maybe he had same thoughts ... "and not even anyone staying on the boat" .......
I have to comment that if more than one or two stuck heaters and fridge on in some marinas - the main trip would go !!
Well you know the answer next time ----- have a Y split power adaptor - then you and he can enjoy 240v luxury.
Oh and I've known millionaires have real tatty boats !! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
mcframe
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interested in hybrid propulsion system. Please reply if you are interested.
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I think most on this forum are, they all have sails, thus mainly use renewable energy.
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Wrong thread, but *my* boat has sails and uses a non-renewable, hybrid nuclear/gyroscopic energy system.
Fortunately, it probably won't run out for about another 5.4 billion years - I guess I'll have to replace the sails sometime before then.
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interested in hybrid propulsion system. Please reply if you are interested.
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I think most on this forum are, they all have sails, thus mainly use renewable energy.
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Wrong thread, but *my* boat has sails and uses a non-renewable, hybrid nuclear/gyroscopic energy system.
Fortunately, it probably won't run out for about another 5.4 billion years - I guess I'll have to replace the sails sometime before then.
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Master_and_Commander
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Ah well, you see that's what happens when the government (namely Mr Bleurgh, sorry, Blair) execute plans for 50% if the population to go to university.
You end up with illiterate students and umpteen 'universities' (read Polytechnic....) offering mickey mouse degrees in subjects such as Clingon (I've never met one and doubt there will be a huge demand for translators), Star Wars and 'Women's Studies' - whatever the hell that may be!!!!
I'm so glad I pay my taxes /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
You end up with illiterate students and umpteen 'universities' (read Polytechnic....) offering mickey mouse degrees in subjects such as Clingon (I've never met one and doubt there will be a huge demand for translators), Star Wars and 'Women's Studies' - whatever the hell that may be!!!!
I'm so glad I pay my taxes /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
colingr
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The latest is a course for teenage girls that might be, or would like to be, young mothers!
FFS in the country iwith the worst rates of teenage pregnancy we're going to teach them how to deliberately become a young mother.
FFS in the country iwith the worst rates of teenage pregnancy we're going to teach them how to deliberately become a young mother.
Master_and_Commander
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I know! FFS why the hell do they imagine that giving girls as young as 11 access to the morning after pill for free will reduce teenage pregnancies?? All it's gonna do is make them more likely to be promiscuous!
When I was their age the last thing on my mind was s%x, and my parents would have killed me if i'd got pregnant at 11 (or possible even in my 20's too!!)
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
When I was their age the last thing on my mind was s%x, and my parents would have killed me if i'd got pregnant at 11 (or possible even in my 20's too!!)
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
BlueSkyNick
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Must admit we dont have a Y-coupler, never needed one.
But it wouldnt be a lot of use if the first boat connected was drawing 15-Amps out of a 16A supply, and the second boat SWMBO wanted to use her hair dryer while waiting for the kettle to boil !
But it wouldnt be a lot of use if the first boat connected was drawing 15-Amps out of a 16A supply, and the second boat SWMBO wanted to use her hair dryer while waiting for the kettle to boil !
flaming
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Ah well, you see that's what happens when the government (namely Mr Bleurgh, sorry, Blair) execute plans for 50% if the population to go to university.
You end up with illiterate students and umpteen 'universities' (read Polytechnic....) offering mickey mouse degrees in subjects such as Clingon (I've never met one and doubt there will be a huge demand for translators), Star Wars and 'Women's Studies' - whatever the hell that may be!!!!
I'm so glad I pay my taxes /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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It's one thing to knock that policy, but when you do so in this context it's hard to read that as anything other than a slight on the individual.
Was that your intention?
Ah well, you see that's what happens when the government (namely Mr Bleurgh, sorry, Blair) execute plans for 50% if the population to go to university.
You end up with illiterate students and umpteen 'universities' (read Polytechnic....) offering mickey mouse degrees in subjects such as Clingon (I've never met one and doubt there will be a huge demand for translators), Star Wars and 'Women's Studies' - whatever the hell that may be!!!!
I'm so glad I pay my taxes /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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It's one thing to knock that policy, but when you do so in this context it's hard to read that as anything other than a slight on the individual.
Was that your intention?
Master_and_Commander
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Certainly not - and I can't see how my post looks like a slight on the individual - unless he studies Clingon, Star Wars and Women's Studies as well??
PilotWolf
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The latest is a course for teenage girls that might be, or would like to be, young mothers!
FFS in the country iwith the worst rates of teenage pregnancy we're going to teach them how to deliberately become a young mother.
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My local GP surgery has several posters telling mothers to be or want to be that they can claim (?)£159 when they get pregnant.
I also know of 2 doctors who has suggested that a partner got pregnant to try and see if it cured endometreosis!
W.
The latest is a course for teenage girls that might be, or would like to be, young mothers!
FFS in the country iwith the worst rates of teenage pregnancy we're going to teach them how to deliberately become a young mother.
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My local GP surgery has several posters telling mothers to be or want to be that they can claim (?)£159 when they get pregnant.
I also know of 2 doctors who has suggested that a partner got pregnant to try and see if it cured endometreosis!
W.
benjenbav
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Whenever we have stopped overnight in marinas other than our home marina and have not happened to have a power socket next to our berth, I have assumed that it would be impolite to connect to a socket next to another berth and just made do without.
Refueler
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Whenever we have stopped overnight in marinas other than our home marina and have not happened to have a power socket next to our berth, I have assumed that it would be impolite to connect to a socket next to another berth and just made do without.
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This is the time that the Y adaptor comes into its' own ... not needing 15A to my tub - I can feel reasonably OK with using it on a further power point. If normal resident there uses more than whats left over and trips it - then I would remove my Y unless they are good people who reduce their power need ... Of course if I've paid for the privilege - which I would do before connecting ... then I would expect some leeway from the other user to allow me to still enjoy my purchased luxury.
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Whenever we have stopped overnight in marinas other than our home marina and have not happened to have a power socket next to our berth, I have assumed that it would be impolite to connect to a socket next to another berth and just made do without.
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This is the time that the Y adaptor comes into its' own ... not needing 15A to my tub - I can feel reasonably OK with using it on a further power point. If normal resident there uses more than whats left over and trips it - then I would remove my Y unless they are good people who reduce their power need ... Of course if I've paid for the privilege - which I would do before connecting ... then I would expect some leeway from the other user to allow me to still enjoy my purchased luxury.
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