Pocket Gaffers

[Tranona]

You mention the core? Is the hull composite?

The core is strip plank cedar with 2 diagonal layers of veneer on the outside, epoxy coated and varnished. Does not appear to have any glass sheathing. Not clear what the deck is beneath the teak, but the coachroof top is similar to the hull, It is water getting into the cedar that is the potential problem and getting a seal of the hull deck joint under the teak toe rail is a challenge. Not clear whether the deck seams are epoxy or caulking but after 30 years quite likely some have failed. The dark patches on the hull suggests water has got in and does not give one confidence that the hull is sound. Signs of water damage to the bottom of the furniture on the main bulkhead inside.

Should know tomorrow when the auction ends whether it finds a new home, but bids a long way from what I imagine the reserve is.

 

[wombat88]

No glass sheathing. Requiring 'TLC' the ad says, having seen the boat I agree.

 

[Tranona]

highest bid was £2100. Don't know whether it sold

 

[The Q]

Not knowing where you sail or wish to there are lots of these around here.
Almost all fixed keel of about 3ft, the masts are often pinned in a Tabernacle, so don't fall down without a forestay unless you get it wrong.
Available from 20ft hull to 45ft hull.

 

[DownWest]

The core is strip plank cedar with 2 diagonal layers of veneer on the outside, epoxy coated and varnished. Does not appear to have any glass sheathing. Not clear what the deck is beneath the teak, but the coachroof top is similar to the hull, It is water getting into the cedar that is the potential problem and getting a seal of the hull deck joint under the teak toe rail is a challenge. Not clear whether the deck seams are epoxy or caulking but after 30 years quite likely some have failed. The dark patches on the hull suggests water has got in and does not give one confidence that the hull is sound. Signs of water damage to the bottom of the furniture on the main bulkhead inside.

Should know tomorrow when the auction ends whether it finds a new home, but bids a long way from what I imagine the reserve is.

Ouch!

Local friend has a little cutter from Whistock's board. Strip with two layers of veneer, but thin glass over that. No probs after 20yrs. No teak deck, just ply, so a good joint. It has a little cabin for one, so a contender for the OP?
Edit, has a c/b, which constricts the cabin, so prob out.

 

[DownWest]

Not knowing where you sail or wish to there are lots of these around here.
Almost all fixed keel of about 3ft, the masts are often pinned in a Tabernacle, so don't fall down without a forestay unless you get it wrong.
Available from 20ft hull to 45ft hull.
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Your Broads cruisers are nice, but a very limited suitability outside of the Norfolk ditches... No offence intended.

 

[FWB]

Must say that I’m surprised that you rejected the Heard 23. Tregatreath is a fine boat and is within your dimensions.
OGA - index

 

[wombat88]

Must say that I’m surprised that you rejected the Heard 23. Tregatreath is a fine boat and is within your dimensions.
OGA - index

It certainly looks like a great boat but it is altogether too much for me. I really need very little in the way of a cabin etc and the price is well above my budget.

However, there is an 18 or 19ft Heard Tosher that might fit the bill.

 

[wombat88]

I'm having a little rethink, the picturesque seems to have taken over from the practical!

 

[tilly56]

It sounds like you have specific requirements for your small gaff boat, and you've already considered some options like the Heard Tosher, Oysterman 16, and possibly a Memory 19. In addition to those, you might want to explore other boats like the Cornish Crabber 17 or the Drascombe Lugger, which both offer traditional gaff rigging and have inboard diesel engine options. The Falmouth Bass Boat and the Orkney Spinner are also worth considering

 

[MisterBaxter]

How about this? Itchen Ferry 22 for sale UK, Itchen Ferry boats for sale, Itchen Ferry used boat sales, Itchen Ferry Sailing Yachts For Sale Itchen Ferry - Gaff Cutter - Apollo Duck

 

[Chiara’s slave]

This one is my favourite. 25ft on deck.

 

[ianc1200]

How about a Norfolk Gypsy? There's one at Titchmarsh Marina (NE Essex) which has been for sale quite some time. The owner seems quite fastidious with his new boat so Gypsy Girl could similarly be in good condition.

Norfolk Gypsy 20 — David Morris Yacht Brokerage

 

[Sticky Fingers]

How about a Norfolk Gypsy? There's one at Titchmarsh Marina (NE Essex) which has been for sale quite some time. The owner seems quite fastidious with his new boat so Gypsy Girl could similarly be in good condition.

Norfolk Gypsy 20 — David Morris Yacht Brokerage

That’s a beauty. No idea whether the price is fair but looks like a great little boat.

 

[ianc1200]

There's a YouTube channel devoted to another Norfolk Gypsy based at Bradwell on the river Blackwater. Some interested video's in the series about how to reef at sea singlehanded, this one is a tour of the boat.

 

[wombat88]

The Norfolk Gypsy is indeed a lovely boat but it seems to hold its price far too well (ie I can't afford one).

 

[KINGFISHER 8]

The Oysterman is the one to go for ... I have owned a Paul Gartside design, albeit 30ft, and can vouch for their worth ... he knows what he's doing!

 

[wombat88]

The Oysterman is the one to go for ... I have owned a Paul Gartside design, albeit 30ft, and can vouch for their worth ... he knows what he's doing!

Yes, I arrived at the same conclusion. The Oysterman 16 (not Oystercatcher) looks like a cracking device with loads of string to keep two people busy. Huge bowsprit (which can be retracted), gaff main, cutter rigged, topsail, lots of sail area, inboard and often beaching legs. Hopeless accommodation and great looks!

What more do I want?

 

[GrandadPig]

Pocket gaffers

I'm looking for a small gaff boat, most likely in GRP.
It needs to be not much longer than, say, 25ft overall including any bowsprit, transom hung rudder etc (marina fees). Waterline could be as short as 16ft.
I'm after a keel boat with inboard diesel (1GM10 etc), draft around 3ft, no more centreboards please.
I'd like a cutter rig. Cutter rigged boats often allow one to be able to retract the bowsprit without the mast falling down (marina fees again ) .
I'd like a topsail to give me some strings to play with.
Open, cuddy or tiny cabin, it depends. I'm not going to sleep on it or cook, so minimum accommodation is only required.
I am not going trailer sailing...ever.

So far the search has offered up the following. Heard Tosher and Oysterman 16 (which I understand can be quite lively) and possibly a Memory 19 (some of which I am told have inboards???).
It won't be new!

What else is there out there?

Skanner 19?

Rare as hens teeth but lovely solid little boats.

Gaff cutter, long keel, 1GM10 inboard sleeps 4 if VERY good friends. New cockpit canopy and nearly new road trailer etc.

Thinking of selling mine. Suffolk, UK.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

Heard 28 for sale, just listed… not sure if it’s a gaffer though. Might be worth a look.

Heard 28 - Red Ensign