Please tell me what boat we should buy!

NealB

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Our approach to boat ownership has been 'promisuous' (to name just a few, we've owned: Westerly Discus, Wharram Pahi 31, Seadog 30, Manta 19, Halcyon 27 and, for the last ten years, a beautiful wooden gaff rigged Tidewater).

We now feel it's time to move on again.

Budget is £20000 to £30000.

We want:

- comfortable accommodation for two for up to several months a year, plus space for 2 occasional guests
- decent, responsive handling under sail (it would be nice to sail the pants off 'Windfall' in her She 31b to windward).
- shallow draft and ability to dry out are a big 'plus', but so are
- looks

If we let our hearts rule, we'll go for something like: Rustler 31, Northney 34, Excalibur 36, Seacracker, Centurion 32. We like the looks, the way they behave at sea, and we'll still have that enjoyable feeling of having a 'special' boat (absolutley no disrespect to what are very fine boats, but we didn't get that feeling at all when we owned either a Westerly or a Moody).

The problem with these 'classics' is their draft, as we like exploring, and drying out, in creeks and lakes (yes, we do overnight coastal, and cross Channel type, passages too).

A logical choice might be something like the Hunter Horizon 30 or Red Fox Vision. How do they sail? Is the Red Fox as big inside as it seems, or has stowage and tankage been sacrificed?

The real engineering answer, would be a cat. However, other than the Iroquois (they turn over don't they?) and the Wharrams (too camping orientated for us now), they don't score highly, in our eyes, on the 'looks' criteria. I quite like the Edel 35, but the Mrs thinks we'd only use one hull 90% of the time (maybe the vendor would accept a 50% offer, hmmm....).

All ideas welcome!

Confused of Devon.
 
Good call, thanks!

I do admire Richard Wood's designs.

The Flica would mean compromising on looks (she's got a bit too much 'up top' for me), but the trade-off benefits are very significant in terms of performance and volume.

The Banshee looks better, to my eye.

I've not been onboard either.

Are Flicas (or Banshees) available within our budget?
 
Re: Good call, thanks!

With Banshee you loose the headroom in the saloon and have to mess about with dagger boards which also take up space. Flica has small keels ideal for taking the ground and super water tanks. I've seen a Flica, in need of work for £35K
 
Re: Good call, thanks!

Neal,
I considered a Red Fox Vision until I compared it to a Hunter 245 which I purchased. Your not to far away from me if you want a look and try, PM me if you want.
 
Re: Good call, thanks!

Have you considered:
Hurley 30
Hurley 9.5
Any Vande Stadt around 10m such as the Pioneer
Jeanneau, Beneteau and Bavaria do some that could also be considered.
What about the old Westerly range..bilge or fin

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Bowman 36 with lifting keel (3'7" keel up)
A gorgeous looking boat.
There was one for sale at Deacons last year, I don't know if it still is.
They were asking 28K
Seems to fit your requirements although it's definitely a cruiser rather than a racer.
 
Yes, I\'d have been over to have a look asap, but.....

She's not listed any more.

We looked over a lifting keel Bowman 36 ("Burlesque") about 5 years ago.

You're right, she would tick many of our 'wanted' boxes.
 
Neal

How about the Trapper 700 (derived from the C&C 35) the centerboard should give you good sailing and reasonably shoal draft fro exploring.

Yoda
 
It will be a compromise .....

You want a boat that will sail well and do all you ask without too much weather-helm etc. It will stand up to weather and beat to windward ....

She will want a boat that is comfortable down below and basically volume.

She will win.
 
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