SpottyDog5
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Not entirely sure, It sits just where the chine is stepped and it has been replaced in the past so perhaps a bit sacrificial ?
Plus it looks nice
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Not entirely sure, It sits just where the chine is stepped and it has been replaced in the past so perhaps a bit sacrificial ?
Plus it looks nice
z1ppy
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might fine ship that Spotty and the hospitality isnt too bad either! 
Very solid boat and the updates inside make it really very special...
Very solid boat and the updates inside make it really very special...
SpottyDog5
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We are on her from the day after Boxing day till New Years Day, all visitors most welcome.
jfm
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Great pictures; thanks for posting. Very fine looking ship indeed and great timeless styling
So what's the science on the hull shape? If it does 27kts max it is fully planing, obviously. So is it a clever have-you-cake-and-eat-it design, where she will plane with the right power but has a nice efficient shape if you choose to pootle at 10kts or whatever. You wouldn't put it past Picchiotti to do something clever like this. Is the fuel economy ok?
I think I'd get rid of the rudder anodes; seems a pointless load of drag having those 4 critters?
I remember the ads in MBY in maybe early 1990s when they were marketed new in UK. It looked a special boat even then
Post more pics anytime you like. Love it!
So what's the science on the hull shape? If it does 27kts max it is fully planing, obviously. So is it a clever have-you-cake-and-eat-it design, where she will plane with the right power but has a nice efficient shape if you choose to pootle at 10kts or whatever. You wouldn't put it past Picchiotti to do something clever like this. Is the fuel economy ok?
I think I'd get rid of the rudder anodes; seems a pointless load of drag having those 4 critters?
I remember the ads in MBY in maybe early 1990s when they were marketed new in UK. It looked a special boat even then
Post more pics anytime you like. Love it!
SpottyDog5
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I guess its all down to great design, these guys make theirs go too ...
http://www.dalenelson.co.uk/classic-45/performance.asp
With regards to consumption, I've yet to record figures across the range, however on our delivery trip, we were using 10 gph per engine @ 15-16 knots in lumpy seas.
The reason I beefed up the anodes on the rudders (the holes were already there) is I have some pitting on the props (not the rudders) the shafts are bonded.
Do you think I am wasting my time ?
BTW I have fitted a galvanic Isolator, she is left on shore power.
http://www.dalenelson.co.uk/classic-45/performance.asp
With regards to consumption, I've yet to record figures across the range, however on our delivery trip, we were using 10 gph per engine @ 15-16 knots in lumpy seas.
The reason I beefed up the anodes on the rudders (the holes were already there) is I have some pitting on the props (not the rudders) the shafts are bonded.
Do you think I am wasting my time ?
BTW I have fitted a galvanic Isolator, she is left on shore power.
vas
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looks lovely, slightly odd, but I like that 
no trim tabs on a planning hull?
odd init?
V.
no trim tabs on a planning hull?
odd init?
V.
Latestarter1
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Roy,
Absolute power difference is not the big deal...AFC response is, unlike Ford start up smoke free, nail em at 1,500 rpm and QSB's take off is like Star Ship Enterprise vs Ford model T, exept there is zero black smoke. Something Dustywings will never experience.........
Paul
SpottyDog5
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Paul, you did make me smile, Tim Griffin (of Griffin Marine) was onboard when we took her out after the lift out to replace the melted props shaft seals, we were popping along at high teens,I pushed the lever forward and she took off, as Tim spilt his coffee, took us both by surprise.
The smoke (or lack of) is something of a welcome change after my last VP 63p's
Latestarter1
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Paul, you did make me smile, Tim Griffin (of Griffin Marine) was onboard when we took her out after theforee lift out to replace the melted props shaft seals, we were popping along at high teens,I pushed the lever forward and she took off, as Tim spilt his coffee, took us both by surprise.
The smoke (or lack of) is something of a welcome change after my last VP 63p's
Sabre used to really struggle, one engineer used to summise that he could roll a fag while turbomachinery got its act together, they tried smaller turbine housings to improve response however this led to surge at rated speed. Ho hum life moves on.
MapisM
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Very interesting pics, I had no doubt that I wouldn't have been alone in appreciating them!
I am shocked by her performances, with those round chines and deep keel.
And 20gph at 15/16 kts is not bad, either.
At a guess, you could easily reduce that to a one figure number, when cruising at full D speed. Speed whose drawback normally is the increased rolling, but since you say that she's very stable (which is also surprising, btw), you could enjoy slow cruising a lot.
I understand that this is not so important in your home waters, but didn't she have a swim platform, originally?
Maybe I'm just too used to them, but that stern looks like something is missing...
I am shocked by her performances, with those round chines and deep keel.
And 20gph at 15/16 kts is not bad, either.
At a guess, you could easily reduce that to a one figure number, when cruising at full D speed. Speed whose drawback normally is the increased rolling, but since you say that she's very stable (which is also surprising, btw), you could enjoy slow cruising a lot.
I understand that this is not so important in your home waters, but didn't she have a swim platform, originally?
Maybe I'm just too used to them, but that stern looks like something is missing...
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SpottyDog5
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I must confess, I haven't been out on her as much as would have liked to this year. I purchased a year ago this week, so still got a lot to learn about her in various conditions and speeds.
I have seen a few Aquarstars or Nelsons with slatted wood bathing platforms, but their is no sign mine was ever fitted with one, have you seen one ?
I have seen a few Aquarstars or Nelsons with slatted wood bathing platforms, but their is no sign mine was ever fitted with one, have you seen one ?
MapisM
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Not specifically on a boat like yours - not that I can recall, anyway.
My comment was just because generically speaking, an Italian boat without one is unusual.
Even if, back in those days, swim platforms were never integrated as they are nowadays, and they were typically built with a s/steel tubes structure and teak grates.
SpottyDog5
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That makes perfect sense for med berthing.
What is interesting, she does have a full height lazzerette to rear of the the aft cabin.
What is interesting, she does have a full height lazzerette to rear of the the aft cabin.
Pennpromo
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Pichiotti Tigress
I have always loved them, really good sea boats in a Nelson-ish way but with an Italian style twist.
As I recall they made a Mk1 and Mk2 with the Mk2 being about 300mm (12") wider?
I assume yours is a Mk2?
Rather a funny gelcoat colour off whitey-blue too?
SIMON
I have always loved them, really good sea boats in a Nelson-ish way but with an Italian style twist.
As I recall they made a Mk1 and Mk2 with the Mk2 being about 300mm (12") wider?
I assume yours is a Mk2?
Rather a funny gelcoat colour off whitey-blue too?
SIMON
SpottyDog5
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Hello Simon,
Yes, mine is the wider Mk2, although I've never been on a Mk1 apparently it makes a significant difference.
You're also spot on the colour, quite strange, but suits her
Btw, we supply Oval316 - small world
Pennpromo
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Tigress
Far too small a world! I very nearly looked at your boat about 18 months ago, the new motors really appealed to me. And I liked the blue galley! What I couldn't do was persuade my wife that we needed something that wasn't a Sunseeker, she just couldn't get round the change of style.
Tigresses are Terrific boats, really well built, will probably last much longer than any of us ! SIMON
Hello Simon,
Yes, mine is the wider Mk2, although I've never been on a Mk1 apparently it makes a significant difference.
You're also spot on the colour, quite strange, but suits her
Btw, we supply Oval316 - small world
Far too small a world! I very nearly looked at your boat about 18 months ago, the new motors really appealed to me. And I liked the blue galley! What I couldn't do was persuade my wife that we needed something that wasn't a Sunseeker, she just couldn't get round the change of style.
Tigresses are Terrific boats, really well built, will probably last much longer than any of us ! SIMON