Petition to stop lobster traps trapping us

Signed, but last time around, the boat magazine concluded that the problem was that there wasn't an agency that was willing or able to even enforce the existing rules.
 
Great idea. I have signed the petition. Having tried to get Government action some 15 years ago without success I hope now is a better time to wake them up.
I fear Government have the same attitude to fishermen as farmers - mostly untouchable.
 
''We believe that the current, voluntary, arrangements and guidance have not been adequate and that the number of call-outs, by the RNLI and coastguard, to small craft disabled by fouled propellers and rudders shows the significance of the problem.''
Is there really a problem? How many call outs to CG & RNLI? Would be interesting to know.
In over 40 yrs sailing never been a problem to me.
 
What about the rights of free and unrestricted passage ?

If one were walking in the street and were trapped by some string, that might be taken as unlawful imprisonment if the string were set deliberately. :provocative:
 
''We believe that the current, voluntary, arrangements and guidance have not been adequate and that the number of call-outs, by the RNLI and coastguard, to small craft disabled by fouled propellers and rudders shows the significance of the problem.''
Is there really a problem? How many call outs to CG & RNLI? Would be interesting to know.
In over 40 yrs sailing never been a problem to me.
You are very lucky. Maybe it is the underwater shape of your boat that helps?
I usually get caught by the floating line that should be weighted and it traps me by the sail drive or rudder, usually at night or in strong tidal areas when the fishing floats sink just below the surface. The risk of being caught by a line makes me feel pretty nervous on a dark night, particularly in a strong wind. In France their pots are usually well marked with a flag on a pole and have a small flashing LED at night. Surely not too much to ask in the UK?
 
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''We believe that the current, voluntary, arrangements and guidance have not been adequate and that the number of call-outs, by the RNLI and coastguard, to small craft disabled by fouled propellers and rudders shows the significance of the problem.''
Is there really a problem? How many call outs to CG & RNLI? Would be interesting to know.
In over 40 yrs sailing never been a problem to me.

Where do you sail? Ever been through the looe channel? 5ltr bottles used as markers that are pulled just under the surface by the tide and set right in the middle of a narrow fairway.
 
Signed, but last time around, the boat magazine concluded that the problem was that there wasn't an agency that was willing or able to even enforce the existing rules.

Exactly. Inadequately marked pots are already illegal in the Solent (under Southampton ABP or Portsmouth QHM bylaws, depending on exact location) and that must be one of the areas most trafficked by official patrols of one kind or another, anywhere in the country. Yet bleach bottle "buoys" are a permanent fixture in some places and crop up from time to time in many others.

As the legal blogger Jack of Kent is fond of saying, banning something doesn't magically cause it to stop happening.

Pete
 
As the legal blogger Jack of Kent is fond of saying, banning something doesn't magically cause it to stop happening.

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Yes, but at least the aggrieved sailor may then have the right to remove the illegal item.
 
The Solent and areas west were very bad when we were there recently, we saw several orange buoys almost completely covered in black slime/weed awash as the current was pulling them down.

We usually only saw them when they were abeam , despite keeping s constant watch after being surprised by the first couple. There was a bit of a horrible sea running which didn't help.

I don't want to think about what we didn't see...
 
...banning something doesn't magically cause it to stop happening...

Pete

Crushing the ill-maintained dories belonging to these lowlife pot-pikies would get their attention though.
Your car can be crushed for being late on your insurance, surely endangering the safety of navigation is equally as serious?
 
Where do you sail? Ever been through the looe channel? 5ltr bottles used as markers that are pulled just under the surface by the tide and set right in the middle of a narrow fairway.

Yes, how can that not be highly illegal? It's just like stringing wire across a cycle path at neck level. Vermin.
 
here was what I got caught on a couple of years ago

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Exactly. Inadequately marked pots are already illegal in the Solent (under Southampton ABP or Portsmouth QHM bylaws, depending on exact location) and that must be one of the areas most trafficked by official patrols of one kind or another, anywhere in the country. Yet bleach bottle "buoys" are a permanent fixture in some places and crop up from time to time in many others.

As the legal blogger Jack of Kent is fond of saying, banning something doesn't magically cause it to stop happening.

Pete

Yes rules in Soton and Portsmouth are are clearly just being ignored and it does seem they cant be enforced.

I spoke to a fisherman who had a second job, was fishing at weekends and evenings by the sound of it, and he said in no uncertain terms he would not be using poles flags and radar reflectors as it cost too much and he would loose even more gear than he does now, he could not see that if it was better marked he might not loose it ! He then went on to tell me that he was on deck travelling on a ferry in the Solent and couldn't believe it as he watched the ferry catch a whole string of his gear and drag it all off after he had 'carefully' set it the night before
 
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