Pershing

No need to go to SoF to answer the OP question, Porto.
Pershings are made in IT, so it's pretty obvious that quality wise they are better than Prin or Sskr.
Bye now, must go look for my coat...... :cool:
 
I have heard some "expert" at a yacht show say that Pershing is no good for a slow cruise speed (of 10-12 knots) that it's only good for cruising at very high speeds (which eats up a lot of fuel) or to go very slowly, but not for a cruise/pleasure speed. Is that a fair judgement? Because of this I have been passing on some Pershing options, but some of them have decent interiors and if the cruising speed argument is not true, I might consider those more seriously. Thanks
 
Well, it doesn't take any expert to expect a boat designed with a 50 knots capability in mind to be less than ideal for 10kts cruising! :D
This is actually true of any planing boat, but even more so of the faster ones.
 
JohnSmith1234 said:
I have heard some "expert" at a yacht show say that Pershing is no good for a slow cruise speed (of 10-12 knots) that it's only good for cruising at very high speeds (which eats up a lot of fuel) or to go very slowly, but not for a cruise/pleasure speed. Is that a fair judgement? Because of this I have been passing on some Pershing options, but some of them have decent interiors and if the cruising speed argument is not true, I might consider those more seriously. Thanks
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I was under the impression, if fitted with Arneson drives, they are more economical than shaft boats.........but a real pain to manoeuvre.
 
Manovring
They are like shaft drives but have a stronger thrust. They are not as bad as stern drives in manovring.
Consumption
Actually at high cruise speeds (25/30 knots or more) a surface drive boat is more efficient to a similar sized and weight shaft drive boat (usually about 10 to 20% more efficient).
The more the speed the more efficient they are. The important note is for a surface drive boat not to be under-powered.
At 10 knots consumption would be the same as a shaft drive boat, they will consume more to a shaft drive boat in the lower planning range say on average about 15 to 20 knots.
 
I have a Pershing 50,, and some of what is said is true.
Thing is, its a fast boat, so that makes it a ball of fun when going quick, but you need to be alert as its quite different to shafts and you need to work the trim carefully on each drive.
It will run happily at displacement just like shafts, but when you get it going, the shafts boat will be left far behind.
What it won't do is happily run along at 15 knots, realistically its displacement or on the plane which starts at around 22 knots, fully on at around 28 knots. Any less than this is dropping off, so you better keep it around mid thirties or higher if you are feeling sporty.
I personally find this spot on, as for a short run i am happy to simply potter around at displacement, and when you get it fully going it is special.
As far as as marina handling goes, well it takes a bit of getting used to., and tick over is about 7 knots, so its one engine at a time in and out of gear, take it easy and its fine.
Hard top and noise, well its going to be open isn't it! Sound is pretty epic, when blasting along and rooster tail too.
Quality, well its an italian boat, and like its stable mates, a sound machine.
Any queries please ask.
 
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lambohill said:
I have a Pershing 50,, and some of what is said is true.
Thing is, its a fast boat, so that makes it a ball of fun when going quick, but you need to be alert as its quite different to shafts and you need to work the trim carefully on each drive.
It will run happily at displacement just like shafts, but when you get it going, the shafts boat will be left far behind.
What it won't do is happily run along at 15 knots, realistically its displacement or on the plane which starts at around 22 knots, fully on at around 28 knots. Any less than this is dropping off, so you better keep it around mid thirties or higher if you are feeling sporty.
I personally find this spot on, as for a short run i am happy to simply potter around at displacement, and when you get it fully going it is special.
As far as as marina handling goes, well it takes a bit of getting used to., and tick over is about 7 knots, so its one engine at a time in and out of gear, take it easy and its fine.
Hard top and noise, well its going to be open isn't it! Sound is pretty epic, when blasting along and rooster tail too.
Quality, well its an italian boat, and like its stable mates, a sound machine.
Any queries please ask.
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Many thanks, we are looking at a P52 this coming weekend, first time looking at Pershing, is there anything specific to these boats that should be looked at .
 
Specifically I have not trialed the 52, but been on one, and trialed multiple P50.
All boats I viewed were totally sound. High spec build, which stands in good stead regarding build ,
Positives - classic high speed high quality boat.
Negative- nearly every boat I seen the gloss as wood is milking, but this is true of most boats. Easily sorted during light refit works.
I had new floor finishes, doors and usuals to bring boat current finish standards.
Pershing imho is a very sound boat and as it was a high end boat in class, remains so.
Keep us posted as to your progress!
 
Owner mulling over our second offer !

Milky wood work but the boat has been well looked after and maintained, if hardly used over the last few years.

Prefer the layout of the portofino 53 and it also feels more luxurious inside but as a package the P52 , with berth, works better.
 
Congratulations......nice boats Pershings .Cant help with the surveyor but as you know Mr G is your friend and sure a few personal up to date recommendations will be along soon ?

Any pics ( anonymised ) and where are gonna keep it ?
 
Portofino said:
Congratulations......nice boats Pershings. Cant help with the surveyor
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+1.

Did you eventually go for the the V8/800 or V10/1050? If the first, we are going to have exactly the same engines.
And in this case, I'd be interested to hear what sort of checks your MAN engineer will make during the seatrial.
In fact, with fully mechanical engines (which is not a bad thing, in more ways than one), in theory he should hook up his own instruments to the engines, for checking backpressures, EGTs and several other parameters.
And all x4, because that's for each cylinder bank... A helluva job, if made kosher.
 
Chris H said:
Bought a berth in Cap Ferrat, can’t upload pics, says file too big !
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Resize the image to Medium at one of the stages .
I was a bit disappointed with this at first .........as one of the main drivers for the new format ( amongst many others ) was hassle uploading pics ..........with many dropping out , which makes the forum less interesting.

Are you listening Mods ?

You will like Cap F btw .
 
Portofino said:
Resize the image to Medium at one of the stages .
I was a bit disappointed with this at first .........as one of the main drivers for the new format ( amongst many others ) was hassle uploading pics ..........with many dropping out , which makes the forum less interesting.

Are you listening Mods ?

You will like Cap F btw .
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The site doesn’t give me the option to re size the file.
 
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