Clarky
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I'm going to look at one on Tuesday, anybody got any specific advice on what to check.I have checked the usual sites already.
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VicS
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Take Searush with you!
Solid old boats.. Look at general condition.
Ascertain age of rigging.. if older than 10 years use as a bargaining point.
Check gas system.... If original probably nowhere near modern standards.
Not greatly impressed with original electrical systems!
Above all else age type and condition of engine. If original MD11C or MD17C you'd be wanting to budget for possible early replacement.
Any osmosis or any treatment
Solid old boats.. Look at general condition.
Ascertain age of rigging.. if older than 10 years use as a bargaining point.
Check gas system.... If original probably nowhere near modern standards.
Not greatly impressed with original electrical systems!
Above all else age type and condition of engine. If original MD11C or MD17C you'd be wanting to budget for possible early replacement.
Any osmosis or any treatment
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Clarky
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Thanks for the reply.
It's in the Netherlands so a bit far for Searush. Its had osmosis treatment, but has original engine, but appears to have had a meticulous owner and is priced to sell, plus the Euro is at a good rate.
Will find out the rest when I arrive, fortunate in that I have a mate who is a mechanic and helps with my boats, but will checkout the engine carefully.
It's in the Netherlands so a bit far for Searush. Its had osmosis treatment, but has original engine, but appears to have had a meticulous owner and is priced to sell, plus the Euro is at a good rate.
Will find out the rest when I arrive, fortunate in that I have a mate who is a mechanic and helps with my boats, but will checkout the engine carefully.
VicS
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Who knows Searush might be up for a jolly to the Netherlands
If the original engine is a MD11C or MD17C you have to face up to the fact that its pretty old. A lot of parts are NLA and what are are horrendously expensive.
good luck though and keep us informed
Searush
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I'd probably cost more than the boats worth!
Especially by the time I've had my ration of Geneva.
In addition to the points quoted, how old are the sails (mine are about 40 so past their best) when was the headlining done (it lasts about 15-20 years) replacing it profesionally is expensive & diy is messy. I fastened mine up with thin battens so it can't fall down.
Allow 8-10K for engine replacement or 5-6 if you do it yourself. Check out the steering cables & look for compression cracking on the mizzen pedestal & under the mast - rare but expensive to deal with. Any electronics like radar etc is likely to be pretty old & need replacing.
I've only had mine about 25 years so nowt much has shown up yet.
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Just remembered, feel the rudder, after 30-40 years the bearings may be worn or the rudder full of water. Bit hard to detect if it's in the water. The original bottom handled winches are really little better than snubbing winches, it takes a lot of time & effort to get a heavily loaded jib sheet in. I try to do it all before the load comes on in a tack.
Check for leaky windows & ports, the early ports will be sprouting funny grey alloy oxide tears by now. It's mostly cosmetic but they're expensive to replace. Does the original anchor winch work? They seldom get used & will seize, but can be freed off if you want.
Look at the small wooden bowsprit VERY carefully, they can hold rainwater & rot internally, but again, apart from the work & the cost of the wood, they are easy enough to replace.
Especially by the time I've had my ration of Geneva.In addition to the points quoted, how old are the sails (mine are about 40 so past their best) when was the headlining done (it lasts about 15-20 years) replacing it profesionally is expensive & diy is messy. I fastened mine up with thin battens so it can't fall down.
Allow 8-10K for engine replacement or 5-6 if you do it yourself. Check out the steering cables & look for compression cracking on the mizzen pedestal & under the mast - rare but expensive to deal with. Any electronics like radar etc is likely to be pretty old & need replacing.
I've only had mine about 25 years so nowt much has shown up yet.
Edit;
Just remembered, feel the rudder, after 30-40 years the bearings may be worn or the rudder full of water. Bit hard to detect if it's in the water. The original bottom handled winches are really little better than snubbing winches, it takes a lot of time & effort to get a heavily loaded jib sheet in. I try to do it all before the load comes on in a tack.
Check for leaky windows & ports, the early ports will be sprouting funny grey alloy oxide tears by now. It's mostly cosmetic but they're expensive to replace. Does the original anchor winch work? They seldom get used & will seize, but can be freed off if you want.
Look at the small wooden bowsprit VERY carefully, they can hold rainwater & rot internally, but again, apart from the work & the cost of the wood, they are easy enough to replace.
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