PC BBC OK

[Magic_Sailor]

Is it me, or is the BBC becoming virtually impossible to listen to or watch these days? I started off thinking about the weather – it having yottie implications. But it extends to other areas like a cancer.

“We” now means every north of Birmingham and west of Swindon.

1. “We will have strong easterly winds this weekend. We will find it very cold”. When a glance at their own pressure animation told (even) me that whilst being a bit chilly, there would be virtually no wind in southern/eastern England.

Its always like this now and it can lead to marital disharmony. “How about sailing this weekend?”. “No, the weather forecast says “we” are going to get F7/8”.

2. The ridiculous use of the letter “a”. It is now pronounced as “ah”, regardless of the general background of the speaker. Fast, past, last are all pronounced as if they come from Manchester despite the speaker having a different accent more generally. So even though John Humphreys is Welsh he has a “southern” accent but still must pronounce “a” as “ah”.

Interestingly, our PC world has got to the point where I do not have the courage to write what I actually want to for fear of it being taken the wrong way or offending which is sincerely not my intention at all.

As a matter of humour – I remember when a BBC PC was an innovative home computer.

Any thoughts?

 

[sailbadthesinner]

you should listen to billy butler on radio merseyside
his famous game hold your plums is an un pc oasis.

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[Magic_Sailor]

I didn't mean local radio/tele so much as national.

 

[sailbadthesinner]

well they have the office
that is set in slough they all have southern ....
and monarch of the glen that is set in scotland with susan hampshire doing a a southern....
alright you have jo grundy in the archers
and that is about it.

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[vyv_cox]

I find it incredible that they increasingly show weather forecasts without a synoptic chart. I met Ian McCaskill a few years ago and he told me that many of the newer ones leave University with a degree in Meteorology and no knowledge of charts whatsoever. The Met office sends them to the RAF for a crash course in charts.

 

[sailbadthesinner]

how the bloody hell can you get a degree in meterology and NOT do synoptic charts?????????

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[vyv_cox]

Seems a little surprising. It's all satellites, rain radars and computer predictions now, apparently.

 

[david_e]

Re: Southern ponces

2. The ridiculous use of the letter “a”. It is now pronounced as “ah”, regardless of the general background of the speaker. Fast, past, last are all pronounced as if they come from Manchester

And the problem with the Mancunian dialect is what........flat nose?

 

[Magic_Sailor]

Despite my protestations to the contrary

You insist on taking offence it would appear.

Had you read my post properly you would have seen that my beef was not with the accent but it's incorrect use - making it a PC issue IMHO.

One of my favourite broadcasters is Andy Kershaw (and his sister).

Actually.

Magic

 

[david_e]

Re: No offence taken, just be careful

I did read it properly, it is nonsense. Andy Kershaw is from Rochdale which is a totally different accent, and it depends whether you went to Rochdale Tech or Rochdale Grammer as to whether it is a, ah, or arr.)

 

[Magic_Sailor]

You didn\'t. It isn\'t. I have now.

Firstly, it's not nonsense because it does happen.
Secondly, you'd be blind not to notice I was careful - so don't lecture and do read.
Thirdly, Rochdale, Manchester or bloody Wigan is irrelevant. The point is the vowel sound is being faked to be PC.

It is however possible to take offence at being called a southern ponce.

Magic

 

[sailbadthesinner]

Re: ooh can i hold your coats

what about that welsh news reader
and terry wogan

altho i will admit ole sourpuss weakest link woman doe not sound scouse
then again neither do i
so am i pc??????????

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[david_e]

In reverse order

I said ponces, that could mean anyone.

Location is totally relevant, because you mentioned Manchester in the first instance.

This is what people say when they don't realise that what they have said is not inderstood by others, might be clear to you, but not neccessarily everyone else.

Who says it happens, prove it. I watch the news etc - load of nonsense, who cares.

Finally, never take a fence, take a gate. it's easier

 

[Magic_Sailor]

Can you get up at dawn?

Still nice to get a response!

Magic

 

[Magic_Sailor]

Or a small potting shed

As you say who cares. (I guess I do - it annoying)

But as for proving - listen to any national BBC broadcast.

Maybe if you're from "up North" you don't notice it - I dunno.

I see - so it's not just me. You decided to alienate the whole of Southern England - not bad Dave.

Magic

 

[tcm]

Andy Kershaw, by \'ek, and t\'BBC

ah yes, remaber him from Leeds uni as ents manager. Hardly anyone in a university talks as he did/does - he seems very proud of his appalling diction which almost glories in dropping t's and h's.

Er, other than tyhat. i wsn't making any particular point. I got flamed a while back for suggesting that the BBC could be controlled by regulation rather than by it being "owned", as the BBC (Hallelujah) is a very proud emblem of the country and its entire output would dissolve into game shows if squillions of pouns wasn't devoted to even its most mindless garbage. Radio 1 might have had a place a while back, it doesn't now. Lots of other garbage as well, promulgated by too many people on too many self-interested committess, each sqauwking about period dramas and so on. I never ever dreamed that in the new century they'd be showing REPEATS of morecambe and wise from the 70's.

 

[sailbadthesinner]

Re: Andy Kershaw, by \'ek, and t\'BBC

tcm
have to take issue
Radio one does have a place
it is in small part an arena for new music to be aired ( that outside the playlist manufactured bands)
it also does some good live events and broadcasts lots of gigs
it was getting v hard to hear good live musicn brum there is the academy and a few venues but not nearly enough for the talent to come through and hone its craft
.
mathew bannister cleared out all the cheesy djs and brought an edge to it by installing jo whiley et al. there is some good stuff on there now
and ofcourse good king john is still broadcasting

i

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[david_e]

Re: R1 - and us old gits

The bad thing about winter is coming back from peelyweely and having to listen to the top 40 just to keep the kids happy...aaaaagggghhhhh or aaahhhh if you are southern P****)

 

[sailbadthesinner]

Re: R1 - and us old gits

yip have to say that could be bad
used to be 'down your way' on radio four in my days as kid en route home

buy them walkmans with radios




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[Gunfleet]

Re: Despite my protestations to the contrary

<<One of my favourite broadcasters is Andy Kershaw (and his sister).>>
That's two.