Passenger/crew without passport in Greece

[kingsebi]

Not sure where to post this, but as it’s country related I think here is the best place.

My hippie friend doesn’t have an ID. She is a Greek citizen and I’m sure a birth certificate exists somewhere, but she doesn’t want to have an ID. If I take her on my boat and get controlled by the Greek coast guard can I run into problems?

 

[andrewAB]

Not sure where to post this, but as it’s country related I think here is the best place.

My hippie friend doesn’t have an ID. She is a Greek citizen and I’m sure a birth certificate exists somewhere, but she doesn’t want to have an ID. If I take her on my boat and get controlled by the Greek coast guard can I run into problems?

In 10 seasons in the Ionion I've never been boarded or asked for crews papers. Many friends come for day trips and occasional overnights abd I don't update crew list unless they are aboard for longer. I'm an ex charter boat and still look like one so get largely ignored by authorities.

I wouldn't be worried if not crossing any borders.

What flag are you and does your boat deaw attention to itself?

 

[Sandydog2]

How would you prove you aren't people trafficking if you did get caught ? The chance of a check may be small but you could have your boat impounded.

It's surely not compulsory for a Greek citizen to have a passport in their own country but it's illegal for her not to have a Greek identity card.

 

[Stingo]

Does she have a Greek Driver's License?

 

[KevinV]

I hadn't thought about the people trafficking aspect, I wouldn't been keen, but would it be your responsibility or hers?

You're the skipper, you are responsible for who's on board.

 

[kingsebi]

You're the skipper, you are responsible for who's on board.

That was my thinking too.

Does she have a Greek Driver's License?

Don’t think so.

In 10 seasons in the Ionion I've never been boarded or asked for crews papers. Many friends come for day trips and occasional overnights abd I don't update crew list unless they are aboard for longer. I'm an ex charter boat and still look like one so get largely ignored by authorities.

I wouldn't be worried if not crossing any borders.

What flag are you and does your boat deaw attention to itself?

I have never been boarded in one and a half years in Greece either, but I have had my papers controlled three or four times. My boat is yellow so I guess it draws some attention. German flagged.

How would you prove you aren't people trafficking if you did get caught ? The chance of a check may be small but you could have your boat impounded.

It's surely not compulsory for a Greek citizen to have a passport in their own country but it's illegal for her not to have a Greek identity card.

That’s exactly what I thought. Human trafficking. Ridiculous, but maybe not from a legal point of view.

 

[Bouba]

You have to assume that your hippie friend is used to arguing her corner with all sorts of authorities over her lack of compliance.....but you have to consider how it affects you. The situation maybe unique and there maybe no laws that cover it...but can you chance an over ambitious border guard chancing his arm ?

 

[kingsebi]

I’m sure she knows how to defend herself and of course the fact that she speaks fluent Greek would make the accusation of human trafficking ridiculous, but I don’t want to risk my boat and freedom.

 

[kingsebi]

Do you still have to do crew lists in Greece?

My friend who does charter yes, but that’s a professional boat.

 

[kingsebi]

I’m sure though if they check they will find out that she is a Greek citizen. There must be a birth certificate somewhere. You can’t not want a birth certificate

 

[Bouba]

I’m sure though if they check they will find out that she is a Greek citizen. There must be a birth certificate somewhere. You can’t not want a birth certificate

You can if her parents were also hippies

 

[kingsebi]

Homebirth? I didn’t think about that. Not the case here though as she used to live abroad and had an ID before.

 

[Irish Rover]

Homebirth? I didn’t think about that. Not the case here though as she used to live abroad and had an ID before.

Dump her. She sounds like a bunny boiler.

 

[kingsebi]

Do you still have to do crew lists in Greece?

My friend who does charter says you need a crew list on a private boat, but you don’t need to get it stamped from the coast guard.

Dump her. She sounds like a bunny boiler.

Haha, bunny boiler. Never heard that one. A vegan bunny boiler

 

[Irish Rover]

Haha, bunny boiler. Never heard that one. A vegan bunny boiler

It's a term which would be more common to those of us of a certain age.
As a matter of interest is this bird rich? If not how does she support her hippie lifestyle. No ID so no dole, no free health service etc etc.

 

[kingsebi]

I just read the term comes from a movie with Glenn Close. I will watch it. Unfortunately my friend is not rich. She works here on the island as a dishwasher and usually sleeps on the beach. Her posessions fit into a small backpack and before she started in the restaurant she didn’t eat a lot.

 

[Irish Rover]

I just read the term comes from a movie with Glenn Close. I will watch it. Unfortunately my friend is not rich. She works here on the island as a dishwasher and usually sleeps on the beach. Her posessions fit into a small backpack and before she started in the restaurant she didn’t eat a lot.

My advice stands. Dump her.

 

[Bouba]

My advice stands. Dump her.

You don’t know what she looks like

 

[kingsebi]

You don’t know what she looks like

Good point. I will not take her sailing now anyways as she is working and I move to the next island soon. Maybe a short trip to a secluded anchorage for a day or two…

 

[kingsebi]

My advice stands. Dump her.

When will I find the woman that is beautiful and rich?