Parker 275 Drying on the Forth

[charles_reed]

You may not be surprised to hear that I disagree with the statement ' better than any other configuration for taking the ground'...

Boats with a completely retracting keel and flush bottom are vulnerable to even small nasty pointy objects on the seabed, grounding plate or not, and the plate is still liable to intrusion by mud and / or stones and jamming.

Those with a ballast bulb which remains external have a much better protection, and in mud ( ie a normal mooring ) the bulb sinks in leaving the boat completely upright, and the bulb - 9" deep cast iron - gives a good chance of shouldering aside the proverbial tesco trolley on approach to an unknown mooring.

On my boat the bulb is veed on top to fair in with the hull so mud and stones are not an issue, as I have known it to be on fully retracting E-Boats and Seal 22's with their small external ballast.

Having the 900lbs ballast 4'6" down is a lot more efficient for sailing than having it in the bilges too.

Not at all surprised - but then you could be wrong. I'd back any 275 to outpoint an Anderson as well as be 35% faster.
I would point out that the 31 has 2500 lbs in a big wing 1.8m down - not like the little boat to which you refer. And it sits on this big 1460mm wing utterly flat without any protruding bits.

 

[TSB240]

I would point out that the 31 has 2500 lbs in a big wing 1.8m down -

Interesting statistic that as it is exactly the same as the total weight of a certain 22 foot boat in its keel!

 

[roblpm]

Hi Rob. I am the owner of VELA a Parker 275 which is usually moored at Port Edgar. She is in the Forth and Clyde Canal at present coming back from a summer on the west coast. I race at PEYC and will be competing in ECSW So come along and make yourself known to me. The other Forth 275 from Elie also plans to sail in ECSW. He moors in Elie all the time with no problems on the sand. The Parker 275 is a superb boat and sails like a dream and way faster and better pointing than any of the boats you mention. My last two boats have been bigger X-Yachts and the parkers performance though smaller is up there. If you want to race at PEYC do not go for a bilge keel boat as you will be left behind and regret it. The other Parker at Elie is sailed by him and his young family, ask him at ECSW. Having spent 50 days aboard this summer on the west coast I can testify that the 275 is an amazing boat and easily handled by two or young family. As I say come along and see VELA at PE or maybe a sail. You will be sold on one. Four for sale at present on the PSSA web page.

Andrew

Thats great, I will look you out at ECSW, I shall only be there on Sunday sailing on one of the PEYC 707s (and trying not to come last!).

So have you ever dried overnight at Aberdour, Limekilns, Anstruther or the like?

 

[Seajet]

Don't see anywhere I'm wrong; I'd expect a Super Seal derivative to be fast and high pointing, but it's still tender with a low ballast ratio, largely internal ballast and a vulnerable bottom.

For looking after the crew into a strong blow, give me the A22 any time; now you go and play amongst yourselves.

 

[charles_reed]

Don't see anywhere I'm wrong; I'd expect a Super Seal derivative to be fast and high pointing, but it's still tender with a low ballast ratio, largely internal ballast and a vulnerable bottom.

For looking after the crew into a strong blow, give me the A22 any time; now you go and play amongst yourselves.

Becos you're going to take your ball away...

 

[A1Sailor]

I'll play. Andy will be busy finding a strong blow!

 

[roblpm]

Andrew, you seem to be doing well at ecsw, just looked at the results. Unfortunately due to a family bereavement i am now 400 miles south of edinburgh, so not going to come last helming a 707 tomorrow or visit u on your boat, so good luck and i will be in touch for a nose round or a sail!!

Cheers

Rob