Paint Recommendations

[Mike Noc]

Our 1908 Gaffer, Maid Marian is currently out of the water for repairs:



During this time we are antifouling and also painting the topsides. Any recommendations for good long lasting materials?

And what filler is recommended for the small blemishes, and one or two larger gaps in the hull prior to painting?

Many thanks in advance.

 

[PhillM]

Epifanes Nautiforte has worked well for me.

I don't actually know how long it lasts because we come out every year. Also, with my boat handling, there is always a few "dinks" that need to be sanded out, so I repaint with 2 coats every year (I make sure I sand down well so I don't get too much build up).

 

[itchenseadog]

+1

 

[Poignard]

A beauty!

If she was mine I would go for traditional 1-part paints and avoid 2-part polyurethanes and epoxies which can trap moisture in the timber.

 

[tillergirl]

I use Epifanes enamel. Nice stuff. Lasts well.

 

[LittleShip]

I've had good success with Dulux Weathershield but in the past couple of years I've used International 10 year door paint.

If your not aware Little Ship is wood, something I have to point out to many when they first see her.

International 10 year is very forgiving and easy to apply.

Tom.

 

[PuffTheMagicDragon]

For the "larger gaps" consider putting in glued splines if you can find suitably seasoned wood.

 

[philiphurst]

Cirrus has been treated to two coats of Dulux Trade Weathershield high gloss this year. The finish is glass-like and only has to last one year as the topsides are repainted each season. Hitherto I've used Toplac which is good but pricey. Dunno how well that lasts as it was also re-done each year.

Some will wonder why I go to these lengths annually. Simple: it takes only 2.5 hours to recoat after a light sanding. I recommend polishing with International Polwax as it is a very quick process, enhances the appearance and makes removing the dreaded black streaks a doddle. If you decide to polish, be sure to use a silicon-free product.

Edit: I thinned with about 5% white spirit and added a healthy dollop of Owatrol oil. The latter helped the paint to flow and brush marks to disappear. At the risk of teaching others to suck eggs, plan the job so that you are working in the shade and the outcome will be greatly enhanced.

 

[LittleShip]

As stated I've used Weathershield with good results but....... It takes a long time to harden up and that's the only reason I've started to use International 10 year door paint.

Both are good on wood but Inter has the edge IMHO !!

Tom.

 

[PhillM]

Just finished our annual out of water maintenance. This year with a little help from the family, we did it over the long weekend.

day 1: Out Thursday and left to dry.

day 2: Friday afternoon, scrape hull, sand topsides, fill fare and prime where needed (did this on my own)


day 3: Saturday morning, roll and tip topsides, AF on hull (me + son).

day 4: Sunday morning - sand, tip and roll topsides, AF touch up instead of full second coat, mainly me an and son, plus 2nd son helped sand / polish prop. Returned in the evening and removed tape.

day 5: Monday morning - boot top, service seacocks, paint name, finish prop. (me, swimbo and 3 sons). finished by 1 and went for lunch. Returned about 3 and took off the tape, cleaned up and took photos!

She should go back on on Thursday, so I have a couple of evenings where I can potter around with some other things I would like to do, but really there isnt much to do. Next time, I think i will come out one day earlier, in case I need to do more prep as we were running close on drying times.

 

[Mike Noc]

We will be delighted if we get a finish like that Phil. Thanks for all the suggestions. We will give Dulux Weathershield a try.

Has anyone used Easy Fair two-pack epoxy filler, and if so, is it any good?

 

[rosewood]

We will be delighted if we get a finish like that Phil. Thanks for all the suggestions. We will give Dulux Weathershield a try.

Has anyone used Easy Fair two-pack epoxy filler, and if so, is it any good?

if its above the waterline. i use car filler for little marks

 

[Tranona]

We will be delighted if we get a finish like that Phil. Thanks for all the suggestions. We will give Dulux Weathershield a try.

Has anyone used Easy Fair two-pack epoxy filler, and if so, is it any good?

That is not done with Dulux as Phil says earlier he uses Epifanes, which is probably the most expensive paint of its type. The good finish is because Phil has obviously put in a lot of work in preparation and used the best paint.

If you just want to cover the surface and don't want to achieve a long lasting finish then house paint is OK. However, the key to a good finish is good preparation, so taking back to bare wood. Priming, filling and applying a proper paint system is worth it in the long run. You do have constraints with old boats because the structure is often not stable, so using flexible filler for seams and a more solid filler for surface blemishes is the usual way of providing a sound base. If you do the preparation work well, achieving a good final finish is comparatively easy. No reason why it should not last 3-5 years before needing a rub down and a new final coat.

All the major manufacturers (Epifanes, Hempel, International etc) all have well developed paint systems and it is best to choose one and follow their instructions to get the best results.

 

[PhillM]

That is not done with Dulux as Phil says earlier he uses Epifanes, which is probably the most expensive paint of its type. The good finish is because Phil has obviously put in a lot of work in preparation and used the best paint.

If you just want to cover the surface and don't want to achieve a long lasting finish then house paint is OK. However, the key to a good finish is good preparation, so taking back to bare wood. Priming, filling and applying a proper paint system is worth it in the long run. You do have constraints with old boats because the structure is often not stable, so using flexible filler for seams and a more solid filler for surface blemishes is the usual way of providing a sound base. If you do the preparation work well, achieving a good final finish is comparatively easy. No reason why it should not last 3-5 years before needing a rub down and a new final coat.

All the major manufacturers (Epifanes, Hempel, International etc) all have well developed paint systems and it is best to choose one and follow their instructions to get the best results.

Nautiforte costs about £33 for 750 ml. I can just about get 2 coats per tin. In the grand scale of things I dont see it as too much to pay.

It SHOULD last a few years, but with my boat handling skills, there is always the odd scrape to fare and paint out by the end of the season

Tranona is correct, finish is all in the prep BUT the paint is slightly more forgiving than others I have tried.

I did scrimp a bit on prep this year, after three years of long, long winter work, I wanted a quick out and back in. You can see blemishes if you try hard enough, but you would need to either be a swimmer or else would have other things to worry about, if you were close enough to notice.

 

[Gone sailing]

Just finished our annual out of water maintenance. This year with a little help from the family, we did it over the long weekend.

day 1: Out Thursday and left to dry.

day 2: Friday afternoon, scrape hull, sand topsides, fill fare and prime where needed (did this on my own)


day 3: Saturday morning, roll and tip topsides, AF on hull (me + son).

day 4: Sunday morning - sand, tip and roll topsides, AF touch up instead of full second coat, mainly me an and son, plus 2nd son helped sand / polish prop. Returned in the evening and removed tape.

day 5: Monday morning - boot top, service seacocks, paint name, finish prop. (me, swimbo and 3 sons). finished by 1 and went for lunch. Returned about 3 and took off the tape, cleaned up and took photos!

She should go back on on Thursday, so I have a couple of evenings where I can potter around with some other things I would like to do, but really there isnt much to do. Next time, I think i will come out one day earlier, in case I need to do more prep as we were running close on drying times.

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Looks good Phill. Can't wait till my kids are old enough to help with the maintenance!

 

[PhillM]

Looks good Phill. Can't wait till my kids are old enough to help with the maintenance!

I can rent you some (for painting) , in fact rent two and get one free

 

[scmyacht]

hi everyone

i have just finshing restoring a holeman 34 ketch with epifanes mono uerothne. i found this to be a great paint and is easy to apply. however on a xod which ive also restored we used international paint perfection. With this paint it was an epoxy two part paint and will last a lot longer then anything else.


your boat looks fab and she looks like fun to sail too

andy

 

[LakeCaptain]

Maid Marian is looking beautiful! For filling, I’d recommend using a marine-grade epoxy filler for those larger gaps—it holds up well and sands smoothly, helping create a seamless finish before painting. For long-lasting paint on the topsides, Epifanes is always a solid choice, as others have mentioned, but I’ve had great results with Hempel enamel as well, which stands up nicely to seasonal wear. Looking forward to seeing her back on the water!

 

[Wansworth]

Our 1908 Gaffer, Maid Marian is currently out of the water for repairs:

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During this time we are antifouling and also painting the topsides. Any recommendations for good long lasting materials?

And what filler is recommended for the small blemishes, and one or two larger gaps in the hull prior to painting?

Many thanks in advance.

The big paint producers offer leaflets on their products…..like a complete system,normally a good guide

 

[Richborough]

I've been using brontho korrex paints. This paint is amazing 3in 1 no primer or undercoat. Covering power is superb. With a Norwegian accreditation for durability.