Paedophiles and marinas

[Triassic]

Very few paedophiles offend, though I gather that the re-offending rate is quite high amongst those who do.

That's because you don't know what you don't know. Once someone is known to have been a sex offender their behaviour suddenly becomes subject to much more scrutiny and people who know their history are more likely to both notice and report events. You only have to look at all the so called celebrity cases that have come to light recently with individuals resurrecting long forgotten incidents because they now perceive them to have been sexual abuse.

 

[Triassic]

Having people around whom we would rather not have around is the price we pay for living in a peaceful and democratic society. Most of The Lounge regulars would rather not have Asian or gay people around.

Speak for yourself, personally I'm just glad I don't live next door to those you refer to on the Lounge.....

 

[fireball]

I would mind my own business and not try to stir up a lynch mob. He's sick not evil - and you are far more at risk from some third world immigrant carrying a nasty disease than you are from this chap.

hate demeans the hater.

Is a peadophile sick? They can't help themselves?
What other criminals are sick? Perhaps we should give them a disability allowance?!

It's one thing to be attracted to socially unacceptable things, it's another to act on it.

I understand the OPs position (thankfully not experienced it myself). I think I'd keep an eye out on his activities - he may be motintored by the authorities, but they're not there 24/7 and if the peadophile wishes to reoffend I doubt it's going to be that hard to do so.
As for the marina managment - I wouldn't worry - unless there's activity that causes concern.
Same for other parents - although if one was berthed adjacent then I'd be a bit more bothered.

unfortunately we can't just get rid of people we don't like ...

 

[E39mad]

I was being sarcastic.

Fair play and apologies - use of the smiley wink will assist knowing whether you were stating this is jest or not

 

[AndrewfromFal]

Pity we don't still have the old fashioned village bobbie who would strike the fear god into him. Under the counter of course.

Utter tosh.

There's a great deal of evidence which suggests your wholesome village bobby turned a blind eye to such behaviour when the perpetrator was a figure of wealth and influence, particularly if the victim was from the less salubrious end of the village, and even assisted in covering it up.

The reality was all to often an inversion of your romanticised view of the past.

 

[jerrytug]

Knowing how curious/observant/nosey yachties are, plus the CCTV, I would have thought this person is very unlikely to re-offend in the confines of the marina? The yacht kids are perhaps at less risk than those in the local park.
Doris if you read this, I'm massively curious to know what yacht Gary Glitter sailed!...better not be a fecking gaffer

 

[clyst]

Ok chaps thanks to those who have offered constructive advice I now consider the matter closed before it degenerates into,a slanging match ........which I didn't want .

Mods could you please do the honours of locking this sensitive thread . Thanks .

 

[savageseadog]

Having people around whom we would rather not have around is the price we pay for living in a peaceful and democratic society. Most of The Lounge regulars would rather not have Asian or gay people around.

It's surely not right to compare Asians and gays with paedophiles?

 

[macd]

So he moves somewhere else where people are not aware of his "previous" - that's much safer isn't it!!

He could be hounded out from his berth and move next door to you. You wouldn't be best pleased then.

I suspect that ronsurf may have been making a solid point in an ironical way. At least, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt on it.

Edit: ah...teach me to half read a thread. Just seen post #41

 

[macd]

If I recall correctly a medical professional was physically threatened and hounded out of the area because the locals thought anyone who had a title beginning with 'Paed..' was a child molester.

The incident happened, in Newport, Gwent, but has seemingly become blurred by Chinese whsipers. (I seem to remember it as having happened in Portsmouth.)
See here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4719364.stm

 

[alant]

I would mind my own business and not try to stir up a lynch mob. He's sick not evil - and you are far more at risk from some third world immigrant carrying a nasty disease than you are from this chap.

hate demeans the hater.

Its not himself he's concerned about is it, it's young kids in the marina.

 

[JumbleDuck]

That's because you don't know what you don't know. Once someone is known to have been a sex offender their behaviour suddenly becomes subject to much more scrutiny and people who know their history are more likely to both notice and report events. You only have to look at all the so called celebrity cases that have come to light recently with individuals resurrecting long forgotten incidents because they now perceive them to have been sexual abuse.

There is a lot of research on this, though for obvious ethical reasons it's not easy to do it accurately. Best estimates seem to be that around 1% of the adult male population is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children and a further 1% to pubescent children. As I write there are 1636 users logged in to the YBW forums, so there are probably around 30 paedophiles among them.

The number of suspects and perpetrators identified in historic cases is a tiny proportion of the paedophiles who were around at these times, because most do not offend.

Speak for yourself, personally I'm just glad I don't live next door to those you refer to on the Lounge.....

Well yes indeed.

Is a peadophile sick? They can't help themselves?
What other criminals are sick? Perhaps we should give them a disability allowance?!

Sick is probably not the right word, but they do certainly have a disorder which can make their lives difficult.

It's one thing to be attracted to socially unacceptable things, it's another to act on it. ...

Same for other parents - although if one was berthed adjacent then I'd be a bit more bothered.

unfortunately we can't just get rid of people we don't like ...

I agree. I normally sail with a child, and I would not be terribly happy bunny to find that a convicted child abuser was berthed next to me, to put it mildly. It doesn't give me the right to drive him away, or to demand that he be driven away.

 

[Poignard]

If the man has a contract with the marina authorities, and has done nothing to breach it's terms, I don't see how they can evict him.

But, maybe there is a term prohibiting living on board. In that case he is in breach of contract and could be evicted. Along with any other live - aboards who are not sex offenders, who would no doubt appreciate your intervention.

 

[TheEcho]

If you feel the urge to do something to protect kids from recently released sex offenders, you could always volunteer for someone like Circles. http://www.circles-uk.org.uk/get-involved/become-a-circles-volunteer

Although if they hear you muttering about "push the bastard in on a dark night" they might not deem you suitable.

 

[KristiferColumbus]

Would you stay in a marina in which a convicted paedophile lived ? One who is convicted and received a prison sentence (albeit suspended) for downloading kiddy rape videos !! As an ex foster carer I find this vile person sickening and as a fellow liveaboard have to share the pontoons on a regular basis . What would you do ? Live and let live ? Bring it to the attention to marina manager ? Or push the bastard in on a dark night ! BTW he knows that I know . His case is plastered all ver the Internet .

I don't think you should be whipping up sentiment against the bloke. It all seems a bit over the top.

 

[JumbleDuck]

If you feel the urge to do something to protect kids from recently released sex offenders, you could always volunteer for someone like Circles. http://www.circles-uk.org.uk/get-involved/become-a-circles-volunteer

I know people involved in that. It's difficult and demanding work, but probably the best system there is for preventing re-offending. A damn sight better than a mob with pitchforks, anyway.

 

[Sandyman]

I don't think you should be whipping up sentiment against the bloke. It all seems a bit over the top.

OTT? not at all. I now know the person who the OP is referring to and would not want to or let him live in any marina near me. Last I will say on the subject and agree with the OP this thread should now be locked for good reason.

 

[Poignard]

Another thing Clyst might keep in mind is that line from Shakespeare's 'Hamlet'

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Zeal is a fine thing but excessive zeal makes people uneasy.

 

[John the kiwi]

Many young people do things that are regrettable through testosterone, youth, alcohol and stupidity. Punch up in the pub, nick a car, sell some dope etc etc .
Most grow up to realise their own folly and become more or less decent citizens.
Paedophiles who don't act on their urges we never know about. Paedophiles who do act on their urges will not grow out of it like the above mentioned misguided youths. I understand that recidivism rates with convicted paedophiles are high and there are very few interventions that can make a difference.
I thank my lucky stars that i was not made like that but have sympathy with those who were because we don't get to choose how we are made.
We do however get to choose what we do.
So if you are a paedophile who has never, and will never act on your urges, I salute you - you are made of strong stuff.
If however you are a Paedophile that has offended and may do so again, i would rather you hanged yourself from a tree than offended again.
If you offend against me and my loved ones, i hope i wish for the courage to kill you myself.
Sad, sad, topic.
John

 

[savageseadog]

You're all very genteel down South. I can assure you he wouldn't last five minutes up North.