Wandering Star
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Not often I agree with Elton but yes, exactly!
Paedophiles and marinas
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elton
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What do you know that the authorities don't? Are you more qualified than the judge?
clyst
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It's a difficult situation for me because as an ex foster care Iv seen how these videos screw kids up how ever I don't want to create a them and us situation between posters ...its me who has the problem with this character ..I don think kids are in physical danger by him but through case histories I have been involved in he probably still has a yearning for sick videos and see kids as sex objects .. Being a new member of the sailing fraternity he now has a reason to be in close vicinity of "scantily "dressed kids whether it be in marinas ,anchorages beaches etc . It's a difficult one .
pmagowan
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Of course he has a yearning, he is a paedophile. That is his sexual persuasion, he has no choice on that. What he does have a choice on is acting on it. It is the same as a heterosexual man can not change that he fancies women but that doesn't mean he will rape them. It is even possible to be celibate. The problem for a paedophile is that to indulge his sexual desires is to commit a horrendous crime.
AndrewfromFal
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You're setting up a bit of a straw man here, if I may say so. As far as I can see, no one is suggesting he doesn't share information that is in the public domain with his fellow liveaboards, and they can then take any necessary measures with regards to safeguarding. - That would be the natural reaction of any parent.
What else the OP or anyone else may or may not choose to do is up to them, but legally, unless he is subject to some sort of prohibition on living in close proximity to children, there isn't a great deal of recourse.
There is also every risk of being on the receiving end of a harassment complaint; which following the murder of a man in Bristol who was mis-identified as a paedophile, the police are under much greater pressure to take seriously.
DanTribe
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I once knew someone with a similiar conviction.
Despite moving house and jobs several times, eventually the neighbours would get to hear and start harrassing him.
Eventually he went into some woods, took an overdose, hung himself from a tree and shot himself in the head with a .22.
Is that the sort of result we want?
Despite moving house and jobs several times, eventually the neighbours would get to hear and start harrassing him.
Eventually he went into some woods, took an overdose, hung himself from a tree and shot himself in the head with a .22.
Is that the sort of result we want?
duncan99210
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I don't think it's difficult at all. The guy has been caught, found guilty, sentenced, done his time and is now a free man again and is undoubtably on the sex offenders register. As such, he will be subject to a degree of management regarding his behaviour by the local police serious offenders management team. Their job is to maintain contact with folks like him to minimise the risk of reoffending.
If the OP is in any way concerned about the offender and has observed misbehaviour, then he should contact the local police and ask to talk to the serious offenders team about the chap. I would not advise him to approach the marina management on the topic, as that would probably be regarded as harassment, nor would I recommend talking to other berth holders for the same reason. The police are the correct point of contact but don't just phone or talk to a beat officer, you need to talk to the team which monitors these folks after their release from jail.
If the OP is in any way concerned about the offender and has observed misbehaviour, then he should contact the local police and ask to talk to the serious offenders team about the chap. I would not advise him to approach the marina management on the topic, as that would probably be regarded as harassment, nor would I recommend talking to other berth holders for the same reason. The police are the correct point of contact but don't just phone or talk to a beat officer, you need to talk to the team which monitors these folks after their release from jail.
Sandyman
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Indeed it is. From a previous experience myself I fully understand & agree with your concerns. The problem for you is how to respond to the knowledge you have of this person. In making it public knowledge you run the risk of human nature taking over
and end up with Mob-Rule. PM on its way Clyst.
nickd
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Convicted, being watched and on a register - so you know who he is ....
How many are close by that are not convicted?
How many are close by that are not convicted?
AndrewfromFal
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I have to say I admire you honesty and frankness over this; and it's certainly a change of tone from a lot of the threads on here (not that you can ever have too much'In praise of Fray Bentos/Aldi deckshoes/Aged Westerly's','Build quality of AWBs/Oysters','Demise of the British Boatbuilding industry','Who was the inconsiderate pillock playing music all night in Newton Creek at the weekend?').
I can't advise you on how you adjust your perception to make it easier for you to deal with; - the only such person I encountered, I was able to completely disengage with. Maybe try seeing him less as a hate figure and more as someone who is possibly carrying his own baggage.
Given your background in Foster Care, I imagine that you will be aware that a high number of perpetrators were themselves victims when they were kids. Maybe his entry into the sailing world is an attempt to move offline to a life away from previous triggers/temptation?
doris
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Agree completely with Wandering Star.
Since we don't have any branches of the KKK here I'm not sure what the OP is suggesting, a quick lynching maybe? Mr Glitter used to have a boat on the next pontoon from me, didn't stop me berthing.
Anyway the offender appears to have been caught looking at videos, not actual physical misbehaviour, I'm sure the authorities will check what he streams periodically.
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E39mad
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So he moves somewhere else where people are not aware of his "previous" - that's much safer isn't it!!
He could be hounded out from his berth and move next door to you. You wouldn't be best pleased then.
Triassic
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If it is you that has the problem have you considered moving yourself rather than imposing your "problem" on someone else by effectively harassing them to move? As others have pointed out this person may have done wrong in the past but they appear to have paid the price to society and are trying to get on with their lives, who are you to add further to their punishment?
Alternatively, and this is just a suggestion, how about inviting him round for a coffee and actually discussing your concerns with him directly? All you appear to know about him at the moment is what you have read in the press or "heard" and that can be spectacularly misleading at times. If you can trust yourself to remain civil then an honest conversation with him may be quite revealing and put you in a much better position to make a decision than to rely on the apparent paranoia that I see at the moment.
If you can't trust yourself to keep a level head then best to stay away, nobody in authority is going to tolerate you giving him any kind of "warning".
Sandyman
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So you think that police monitoring will prevent this person re-offending.
It won't. He's a Paedophile.
The police take a middle of the road approach to such matters having to balance the safety of the individual whilst ensuring people don't take the law into their own hands.
Best dealt with an 'under the counter' approach.
Pity we don't still have the old fashioned village bobbie who would strike the fear god into him. Under the counter of course.
It won't. He's a Paedophile.
The police take a middle of the road approach to such matters having to balance the safety of the individual whilst ensuring people don't take the law into their own hands.
Best dealt with an 'under the counter' approach.
Pity we don't still have the old fashioned village bobbie who would strike the fear god into him. Under the counter of course.
JumbleDuck
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Very few paedophiles offend, though I gather that the re-offending rate is quite high amongst those who do.
JumbleDuck
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Well said.
savageseadog
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A Marina is an unusual situation which may offer enhanced opportunities, it's also a leisure situation where other users will want to be without the issue of having him around. At our Marina there was an issue with some threats made to a elderly club member. A group was assembled and it was "suggested" that the perpetrator leave and that was the end of the matter (when he left).
Keen_Ed
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Plus if you drive him away and into hiding, the situation is a whole lot worse than when he was in a location known to TPTB.
Plus if you drive him away and into hiding, the situation is a whole lot worse than when he was in a location known to TPTB.
JumbleDuck
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Having people around whom we would rather not have around is the price we pay for living in a peaceful and democratic society. Most of The Lounge regulars would rather not have Asian or gay people around.
ronsurf
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I was being sarcastic.