Older Westerly OceanLord

[Aardee]

All true a boat should truly fit the person wanting to buy it and get as much plus points that you are after , there will never be a boat within your budget givivng you everything and compromise is always a juggle.
Some like to go fast and as close to the wind , others will not put their sails up if it starts to blow , some never leave the Dock
Choose a boat that will suit you and your needs everything discussed on this thread will be a good boat but you will compromise in one area to another on another boat , older boats do not mean extra money , as the owners may have spnet a lifetime loving their old boat , you might get a newish AWB which has been chartered and run ragged and needs some work
Boats are money pits and no matter how big the list is be assured that it never goes down no matter what your boat
The OceanLord is a lovley boat , but so is a Bavaria and a Jeanu. a good survey and a happy SWMBO will make a happy sailor

Amen...Wise words.

 

[Frank Holden]

My Oceanranger was built with the Sealord interior and although it can sleep 8 I wouldn't want to be onboard with 8 people milling about. Ideally it will suit 4 people, and I think 6 people as live aboards will be too cramped. ......
Mike

Phhhht! The Sealord was marketed in the days of 'how many does she sleep?'.... and she was sold as sleeping- I kid you not- 10! Two in the focsle, 3 in the saloon, two in the walkthrough, and another three down the back! They would have to be really good friends
Not sure about small children .... but all my sea passages have been three max... most often two.
Coastwise up to 2 months and tied up to trees 95% of the nights I have had four... one in the focsle , two in the saloon, and me in my stateroom ...
I did 3 weeks coastwise once - only 2 overnight sea passages and all north of the tropic of capricorn - with five of us .... a Russian who had retired to Venezuala where he found his russian pension went a long way, two Colombian ladies, and a nice young lady from Singapore.... that was interesting... but a bit cramped......

 

[Tinto]

From what you have mentioned about your requirements as an owner of an Oceanranger I'd suggest that it will be too small for you. My Oceanranger was built with the Sealord interior and although it can sleep 8 I wouldn't want to be onboard with 8 people milling about. Ideally it will suit 4 people, and I think 6 people as live aboards will be too cramped. The Oceanranger is really a 36' Corsair with a sugar scoop stern so there is no extra space inside.
Have a look at the Westerly Wiki which will show you the different boats and sizes and how many of each model were made. etc.,etc.
I based Conspiracy in Arisaig and have sailed all over the Hebrides. St Kilda several times, the Faeroes once and once to the arctic circle above Iceland. She is a lovely boat, beautifully finished inside. Sails well, never frightened me, or given me cause for concern. We bought her in Brighton and sailed her up to Pwllheli, where I live, over bonfire night weekend and have been up and down the Irish Sea between Pwllheli and Arisaig about 4 times (return journeys that is). 2 weeks ago I "sailed" her down from Arisaig to Abersoch by myself very easily - found it a bit lonely and boring. I say "sailed" because out of 53 hours under way, 49 of them were under power!
So in conclusion, based on my experiences, one of the larger Westerlys will suit you down to the ground for the sailing area you're looking at. Make sure the boat you choose has a good engine and has been loved like mine is. I've had to replace the batteries, both loo pumps, standing rigging, and anchor windlass and that's all in the 9 years I've had her, plus of course the usual consumables like filters, anodes, antifoul etc., etc. (I've also treated her with lots of presents but we won't mention those!)
Happy hunting because this is an exciting time. If you want to know more PM me and we can chat on the phone.
Mike

Thank you for your insight.

Out of interest what did replacing the standing rigging cost you? And did you do it yourself or pay someone to do it

 

[Tinto]

I did 3 weeks coastwise once - only 2 overnight sea passages and all north of the tropic of capricorn - with five of us .... a Russian who had retired to Venezuala where he found his russian pension went a long way, two Colombian ladies, and a nice young lady from Singapore.... that was interesting... but a bit cramped......

Sounds like here is a story or two there !?

 

[Vegable]

Thank you for your insight.

Out of interest what did replacing the standing rigging cost you? And did you do it yourself or pay someone to do it

First a big grin to Frank...that sounds to have been fun and cozy. Did you follow the eskimo principle that 2 eskimos under one blanket will keep a lot warmer than 1 eskimo under 2 blankets?

I got the standing rigging done by a local boatyard and rigger here in Pwllheli. Price, I'm afraid I can't remember but it was at a competative price. I didn't fancy doing the measurements myself and sending them off to someone like Jimmy Green in Devon which is why I chose a local yard. That was about 4 years ago and it was the original rigging from 1994 that was replaced. I replaced it really because it hadn't been replaced earlier not because there was anything wrong. I contacted the previous owner beforehand to find out when it was last replaced. Something I forgot to ask when buying her. He bought her in 1996, used her as an escape from work and sailed from Brighton to France fairly regularly so the rigging had had a good workout. He also bought Conspiracy a lot of presents too!
Mike

Added bit, I kept the old rigging and took it to a local scrapyard and got around £50 for it if I remember rightly.

 

[Tinto]

Now and then maybe 4 aboard. Usually 2 or less. The rare occasion 4 adults and 2 kids. But very rarely.

 

[laika]

The Sealord was marketed [...] as sleeping- I kid you not- 10!

With all the unrest in the world I don't think anybody should have a yacht that sleeps more than 9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JCPzDXJa6g&t=1m18s

(the oceanlord was marketed with 9 berths...)

 

[Tinto]

an update

Having had a look around it seems there is huge leap forward to be had with a budget of £80k over £60k for a Westerly Overlord.

Sure I lose the large aft cabin, but the design of boats circa manufactured in 2005 means that the fore cabin is much better than on the Westerly, and more than comfortable. I looked at a Beneteau Sun Odyssey 423 the other day and much preferred the more modern design. I expect, it would need quite a bit less repair.

 

[pvb]

an update

Having had a look around it seems there is huge leap forward to be had with a budget of £80k over £60k for a Westerly Overlord.

Sure I lose the large aft cabin, but the design of boats circa manufactured in 2005 means that the fore cabin is much better than on the Westerly, and more than comfortable. I looked at a Beneteau Sun Odyssey 423 the other day and much preferred the more modern design. I expect, it would need quite a bit less repair.

Yes, you'll get better value for your money overall if you expand your search to include more modern boats. Good hunting!

 

[Bobc]

an update

Having had a look around it seems there is huge leap forward to be had with a budget of £80k over £60k for a Westerly Overlord.

Sure I lose the large aft cabin, but the design of boats circa manufactured in 2005 means that the fore cabin is much better than on the Westerly, and more than comfortable. I looked at a Beneteau Sun Odyssey 423 the other day and much preferred the more modern design. I expect, it would need quite a bit less repair.

Go and take a look at one of these. Lots of boat for the money and sail very well. Doesn't have an aft cabin but has a big and comfy owners cabin with en-suite in the bow:-

https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2003/bavaria-44-owners-version-vat-paid--3134006/