Old charts for east coast?

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I'm doing my day skipper and want to practice some passage planning. Does anyone have old charts for East Coast, particularly including Rivers Orwell, Stour, Blackwater, and Crouch? I'm happy to pay something for them and obviously to pay postage, unless you are close and it is possible to pick them up.

I am thinking that I should probably get "Admiralty SC5607 Thames Estuary Essex and Suffolk Coasts" to practice on, or the equivalent Imray charts. However, I am clearly quite new to this so am not sure if it would be good to have harbour approach maps to practice pilotage as well.
 
Hi Little Grebe. I'm quite new to the forum (and sailing generally) and have just been discovering the for sale section. :p To be honest, I don't quite understand how the Imray charts work as I learned about the Admiralty ones first. There seems to be the option to get the Imray chart pack 2000 for the area I'm looking at or getting individual charts. Are both of these reasonable options for passage planning? Would Y16, Y17 and C1 together be appropriate for things like pilotage planning in and out of the harbours in these areas as well as planning a passage from the Orwell to the Blackwater, for example? Would I still want to get something like 2000.1 to get an overview of the whole passage, or would that be overkill?
 
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I'm doing my day skipper and want to practice some passage planning. Does anyone have old charts for East Coast, particularly including Rivers Orwell, Stour, Blackwater, and Crouch? I'm happy to pay something for them and obviously to pay postage, unless you are close and it is possible to pick them up.

I am thinking that I should probably get "Admiralty SC5607 Thames Estuary Essex and Suffolk Coasts" to practice on, or the equivalent Imray charts. However, I am clearly quite new to this so am not sure if it would be good to have harbour approach maps to practice pilotage as well.
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That folio pack will set you back between £37.50 and £44.30 (price of the January 2017 11th edition), or perhaps a smaller scale, cheaper, practice chart of the Thames Estuary ( https://www.toddchart.com/Products/Details/AC5041?gclid=CLjw-tnh9tICFeQy0wodofIGTQ), but if you only want to practice on an old chart/folio you may find someone via the 'Wanted' Board who has either the 10th edition which they are upgrading or perhaps a couple of individual large scale charts of greater vintage for a more modest outlay- leaving you able to spend your money on what you then decide you actually need

If you'd posted last month you might have picked these up:- http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?473685-sixteen-admiralty-charts-free&p=6027578#post6027578

You never know there may be something similar waiting in the wings
 
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I have C1, C8, C9, C25, C29, Y9, Y16

East Spain pilot (1989)

English Channel Middle Sheet (1972)

unused G13 (2004), G121 (2004), G11 (2005)
 
A word of warning,
Whilst you can often use very old charts in the West Country on the understanding that rock doesn't move much... (though nav marks do move).
That does not apply on the East Coast.
The various swatchways and gats go walk about as do sandbanks. Indeed there has been a signinfcant change in Foulgers Gat over the past 15 years...
 
To practice passage planning, you really need a few charts and tide tables for the same area - doesn't really matter which area or how old they are (provided they are pretty colours with metres instead of fathoms) nor what sea area they cover. An old Reads, together with a few chats of any UK waters will serve, Admiralty, Imray or any other brand - even a mix such as you find on most boats.

I can't imagine passage planning without taking the tidal streams into account.

Peter
 
Hi all -- thanks for all the replies. I have now received a set of maps from a ybw forumite, for which I am very grateful. :)

I do indeed have an old Reeds I've been using. I have taken the warnings on board about the ever-changing east coast and am not planning to use older charts for actual navigation in the area, just for practicing passage planning at my desk. I am doing day skipper on a friend's boat as own-boat tuition and they have brand new charts for the area. We'll use those during the actual course.
 
Having retired from a well known coastal organisation & looking after charts etc until Jan 2013 i now find in my possession the following charts suitable for planning & training:
2052 - Orford to the Naze issued Mar 2012
1183 - Thames estuary issued Feb 2010

Any interest pse pm. They are free, plus postage, and virtually mint.
 
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