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I've inherited several items of equipment of equipment with my 'new' boat. These are stored in a greasy bag and comprise: a small brass pump, a selection of nylon tubing, a very dirty bucket and an equally oily funnel. I think these items are related to removing the oil from the engine (Yanmar 2GM). As the dipstick is positioned in a very inaccessible place only locatable by feel - even checking the oil level is very difficult (and therefore not done as religiously as it should be).
It occurs to me that I am going to get extremely messy when it comes to changing the oil and the operation is probably best carried out in the nude and hope that no one enters at an inopportune moment. Added to this I will no doubt cover the engine and surroundings with dirty old engine oil.
Is it worth buying (or borrowing) one of those vacuum oil suckers - I think they are called Pela?
 
forgiveme if i am teaching a granny to suck eggs here, im sure you all know this, but ill proceed anyway, (teehee) When i use one of those brass oil exstraction pumps, i found the oil uncomfortably hot whilst holding the pump, not scalding, but i had to put it down regualry. posibly another argument for the exstractor. or, thinkning on my feet now, i supose you could contrive an oil sucker (to provide proof of concept anyway) from a plastic bottle and dingy pump.
Matt
 
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I've inherited several items of equipment of equipment with my 'new' boat. These are stored in a greasy bag and comprise: a small brass pump, a selection of nylon tubing, a very dirty bucket and an equally oily funnel. I think these items are related to removing the oil from the engine (Yanmar 2GM). As the dipstick is positioned in a very inaccessible place only locatable by feel - even checking the oil level is very difficult (and therefore not done as religiously as it should be).
It occurs to me that I am going to get extremely messy when it comes to changing the oil and the operation is probably best carried out in the nude and hope that no one enters at an inopportune moment. Added to this I will no doubt cover the engine and surroundings with dirty old engine oil.
Is it worth buying (or borrowing) one of those vacuum oil suckers - I think they are called Pela?

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I could never get on with the brass ones and always made a mess. Although others seem to get on ok.

I bought one of these-----------

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OIL-FLUID-EXTRACTO...%3A1|240%3A1318

I had to use a bit thinner plastic tube because of a thin dip stick hole.

It works very well.
 
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Is it worth buying (or borrowing) one of those vacuum oil suckers - I think they are called Pela?

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If you value cleanliness of cabin sole etc. then the answer is "yes".
Despite all my precautions, with my brass pump system, I always managed to spill significant quantities of dirty oil around the cabin at all stages of the process, finishing with masses of oily cleaning rags.
I now have a Pela, it's very much better, though perhaps not perfect. But you still need to find the obscure dip-stick hole.
It's also very useful for sucking up small amounts of liquid in odd crevices around the bilge etc.
 
I also bought a vacuum pump - from force 4

see link http://www.force4.co.uk/859/Force-4-Oil-Extractor-Pump.html

not sure how to add the links properly (perhaps someone will explain)

It does the job very well at extracting through the dipstick and is cheaper than the Pela unit.

When it comes new the bottle is translucent and it is easy to see how much oil is extracted, however the second time you use it the bottle is filthy from last year's oil and it isn't quite so obvious!

However, on balance, still a good bit of kit

Jusw
 
Fasten the brass thingy to a secure surface and you will have no problems. Trying to use it by holding it is fraught with problems. It is after all designed to be secured in place!

Tom
PS I have a pelar vacuum pump and it just took too long to remove the engine oil...... 3 gallons in total! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
Tried the Brass version with cold oil .. Not a good idea .. Ran engine for 10 minutes worked a treat .. No problems with mess if you take your time .. Wrapped Brass syringe in kitchen roll .. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
A definite yes for the Pela type extractor - my friend has the small brass pump and hates it - he now uses my pella. They are a great job.
Secondly I share your frustration trying to locate the dipstick on the 2GM. A small light makes a world of difference I find.
Leave the oil stained items in a bag marked for back up use only!
 
Just spent the afternoon changing the engine oil and gearbox oil with this very unit, second time ive used it, brilliant bit of kit no mess what so ever. all cleaned and packed away till the next time.
Strongly recommend.
It holds about 6 ltrs which was enough for my engine and gearbox, just.
Then decant the contents into the empty oil containers.
Job done
 
I used to have

an expensive Jabsco brass extractor.

I hated changing the oil, it took ages (even when hot) gave one 2nd degree burns (especially when hot) and leaked, before, during and after the operation.

I finally ditched it and bought the big Pela (mainly because it was less expensive than the small version).

Changing the oil became a doddle on the 2GM and even more of a doddle on the 3YM.

I wouldn't even consider the brass extractor now.

However I do 2 oil-changes a season - the agony may be considered worth it by those who only do one. (or who are masochists)
 
Re: I used to have

I bought the Pela 6ltr job and it's amazing what jobs I've found for it.
I've taken the blanking cap for the suction pipe on the container and drilled / fitted larger bore tube to alloy pipe. That gives me excellent bilge / fuel tank etc. suction use, as oil extraction tube is small bore and flexible.

Would I recc'd Pela ? Yes certainly.
 
Ditto the Force 4 unit. Once bought you will wonder how you coped without it. Brilliant around the boat, car - anywhere!
 
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Ditto the Force 4 unit. Once bought you will wonder how you coped without it. Brilliant around the boat, car - anywhere!

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Looks same as Pela 6 ... I got mine from Compass24 ... cheapest quote I ever got.
 
Ciao Tom.....

I bought a 12v sucker for this last season. Still takes an inordinate amount of time but significantly less grief than either the small brass or large plastic hand jobs. Less mess but still never ceased to be amased just how far a few drops of black oil will spread over my otherwise nice clean cabin sole.

Not the easiest or most comfortable job on any yacht. Piece of cake, no doubt, for those dreadful people who prefer motor whotsits. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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