Ocean Yachts

Captn D said:
If you can get hold of a copy, it is worth looking at what Yachting Monthly in their current adition has to say about the Krakenn 50. Also in Yachting World April 2018 there is a review of the Amel 50 plus a very interesting article by Pete Goss on his choice for a Blue Water Cruiser for 2, a Garcia Exploration 46.
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But all massively above the OP budget
 
dunedin said:
But all massively above the OP budget
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A big question is new or second hand - I’d always go for second hand to massively widen my choice of boats, get a chance to see whether my preferred model ages well and to have a boat fully fitted with teething problems sorted.
 
I would go with medium displacement such as Bowman as they have a better build than AWBs. Another option is we had a heavy displacement steel ketch with a long keel and cutaway forefoot, the reason being if you sail for long enough something hit or you will hit something. We were anchored off Dominica when a heavy pirogue that couldn't get their engine to turn off hit us at full speed on the beam. A lightweight boat would have been holed and anything behind it destroyed, we had a chip in paint that I fixed. They will also survive hitting a reef.
 
KellysEye said:
I would go with medium displacement such as Bowman as they have a better build than AWBs. Another option is we had a heavy displacement steel ketch with a long keel and cutaway forefoot, the reason being if you sail for long enough something hit or you will hit something. We were anchored off Dominica when a heavy pirogue that couldn't get their engine to turn off hit us at full speed on the beam. A lightweight boat would have been holed and anything behind it destroyed, we had a chip in paint that I fixed. They will also survive hitting a reef.
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Sorry for sounding dumb but what is a AWB?
 
So far this has really opened our eyes and you have all given us lots to think about. So to all the contributors thanks for the positive inputs. Our Journey is going to take a couple of years but hopefully we will not make any stupid mistakes along the way.

P2S
 
You could also have a look at Ovnis, Arconas, Rustlers and a number of others. As others have noted, your choice of cruising desinations (Med/Caribbean or polar regions) will influence your choice of boat. Your choice may also be influenced depending on whether you're looking to circumnavigate in 2 years or 10 years?
 
Don’t miss to have a look at Elan Impression 45. I am not the sort of person that thinks “my boat is the best one”. Far from it. All boats have compromises. I bought an Elan Impression 45 three months ago, made a 1300 miles delivery trip, few more shorter trips since then and I was quite impressed by its sea worthiness. It sails well, it feels strong and solid, very difficult to slam (unlike my previous boat) and I think it is well built for a mass production boat. In fact visiting the factory I could call it semi custom production since I didn’t see much automation. Carries 788lt of water which is important if you plan to spend a long time on it, it is roomy and tall inside and with lots of cupboards and spaces to store things here and there. Of course it has its disadvantages too like all boats.
 
The subject is vast. Pretty well anything from a balsa wood raft to a Caprice to HMS Victory will blow downwind across an ocean in the trade wind belt in safety. Pretty well nothing short of a deep dived nuclear submarine is safe and comfortable in a tropical revolving storm or in the Roaring Forties. In between lie a huge range of cruising yachts all of which are ideal according to their owners.

There is a paid for (not expensive) website called Attainable Adventure Cruising which I find good :

https://www.morganscloud.com/category/1-free/
 
RupertW said:
I’ve sailed a Lagoon cross Atlantic and found it both fast (15 knot top speed but cruised for days at 8-10) and forgiving.
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Really? I crossed in a Lagoon 50 last year and found it pretty dreadful. Very slammy and performance never exceeded what I would have expected from my 36' AWB.

Good luck to the OP in buying an Xc45 for 300k, double that and you might find a bargain somewhere.
 
An additional consideration would be if you would like a lifting keel ? If travel through French canals attracts it might be worth looking at a second hand Southerly 42 for example . Clearly new Discovery Southerly might be out of budget though. Always looked a versatile approach but obviously other lifting keels out there.
 
Thanks for all the Input and we certainly have lots to consider.

One question looking at the Catamarans. How do you get them lifted out for the Antifoul etc. I looked at a marina and thier hoist is only 5.5mt wide. That puts them out?

P2S
 
Power2Sail said:
Does anyone know about lifting Catamarans out for anti foul is this going to be a problem?

Thanks

p2s
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Generally requires a decent-sized travelhoist or a big crane with spreader bars. The Caribbean is fairly well geared for Cats but I understand that yard standards can vary though so check with the liveaboard network over there. Over here a scrubbing grid, sandbank, whatever that you can safely dry on and work on should save money No idea how Coppercoat copes in the Caribbean but this could mean that you only have dive ocassionally to clean the hull.
 
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