Not a happy weekend

markc

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I want to relay an incident that happened this weekend - It appears that the disrespect for fellow human beings over recent weeks is not just restricted to the mobs that have been causing havoc up & down the country, it happens at peaceful mooring on the Thames too.

I’m not going to ‘name names’, or even say where this happened, but suffice to say that the whole incident has left me & my wife shocked and I am ashamed that fellow boaters see fit to treat others in this way.

We were with our young son, who is just over a year old and decided to visit a well-known mooring for a peaceful weekend and chose this spot because our son has just learnt to walk, and a big open space is ideal for him to try out his little legs. Once we had moored up, early on Saturday morning, we hopped off the boat to play on the field. There were 3 or 4 largish dogs from the group of boats behind us that were not on a lead that were making it tough for us to feel safe to let Jacob play. Not a problem – it must be great for a dog to run around, especially if cooped up on a boat and there are not that many moorings where dogs can do this, so we were more than happy to stay the boat until our guests arrived, and then we went out for lunch.

After lunch our guests left and another friend joined us for the afternoon and dinner on the boat. The group behind that comprised of maybe 7 boats and 15-16 people had a BBQ on the bankside and the loud music started. I don’t mind if anyone wants to have a party, but common decency suggests that if you are having it 2 boats away from other people who may be wanting a peaceful evening, you send someone along to apologise in advance for the noise and make them feel perfectly happy to request the music to be turned down if things get a bit rowdy later. I would think more so if they had a baby on board.

So, no pre-emptive apology and we spent the evening with our friend with a background of the group singing through the Abba & Tom Jones back catalogue at the top of their voices. All evening, our son was disturbed and we said nothing.

At around 10pm, it was pitch black and now, on top of the singing, the group were all winding their dogs up to howl. As it was dark and they had no lights on, I shone a torch over to them and asked them to keep it down as we had a baby on board. As I did so, one of the group started to come over and I was expecting him to maybe apologise. Instead my wife & I received a barrage of abuse and threats, and this person was extremely intent on getting me off my boat so he could beat the **** out of me, just because I shone a torch at him. My wife was reduced to tears and there was no way on earth I was going ashore on a dark bankside with the threat of drunken violence, especially with such a large group. The only option we had was to retreat below and comfort our son who was now wide awake & crying. The music & singing continued unabated for another 2 hours, whilst still hearing the various ways that I was going to get ‘a smack in the mouth’ and lots of torch shining on our boat – very intimidating, so much so that it’s going to take a lot of persuading to get my wife to spend another night moored bankside.

I grew up on the river and have spent so many years telling anyone who would listen how friendly everyone is and what a wonderful ‘old fashioned’ community it is. Maybe I was wrong, and it makes me very sad.
 
Very sorry to hear of this and well aware how it can a totally ruin your trip.
Unfortunately not an uncommon occurance.Any idea of where this bunch of no hopers came from.Must have had burgees up or something.
Athough marinas are very reluctant to get involved with problems like this a letter to a club can often get the effect of the miscreants being made aware of the discomfort they are causing other river users.
Must admit I would have cleared off long before darkness fell.Even just round the corner can reduce the volume considerably,wether it is loud music, general rowdyness or blooming generators.
People have been chucked out of our club for offensive behaviour and really think that this incident should least be reported to the police.
Not really my manor but would like to know where the boats were from.
 
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Sorry to hear about you troubles, Mark. It would be helpful of we knew where it was, and any idea of the group of boats being so selfish - I'm assuming Old Git wasn't one of them!
 
That stinks, Mark. Not so much the crowd and noise (as it was a public space) but the sheer ignorance.....barstewards.

You sound very like a young couple and baby I often see over near Sonning....is that you?....Boat is Our Choice I think...
 
Arrogant, ignorant, inconsiderate coward(s). To treat anyone like that is bad, but a Mother and Father with a baby is quite disgusting.

Name and shame is the least they deserve imho.
 
tbh I would have called the police once it became threatening.

I have never had anything like that other than one abusive drunk hireboat going through Temple lock - a quick call to the guy who rented out their boat hopefully cost them some of their deposit.

While it may be cold comfort now, you really were just very unlucky.
 
No excuse for threatening violence to a family with a baby. As others have said, name and shame.

Hopefully you will both be able to put it behind you and still enjoy your time on the river with the majority of considerate, friendly fellow boaters.
 
Really sorry to hear this, as others have said I know you didn't want to but I think you should name and shame.

The loud noise, music etc is bad enough but to threaten you is a police matter.

I hope your wife remembers the good times and moorings and this does not put her off for to long.

I agree that the friendliness of people on the river and the experience is part of the charm. I must admit we have had a couple of incidents this year including one that got very abusive and resulted in us being threatened it was a boat incident but they were not boaters. Sadly you are not alone.
 
Unfortunately pigs do escape.

Hi.

Sorry to hear your tale. Really the only thing you can do is move in this situation. People with this sort of attitude relish a bit of fun such as you have provided them with. From experience, the police do not really want to know unless there is any physical harm or damage. They have much bigger fish to fry.

It is a great shame that some people thrive on other's discomfort. They know that they can get away with it. Probably name and shame would be best. We are not all pigs like them.

Kind regards.


Alan.
 
Different opinion!

Surely their drunken bahaviour was wrong :(, I never support such behaviour. I can also imagine that you and the family were stressed and upset.

BUT

I would have just gone and asked them nicely to keep their noise down in the first place, rather than shining my torch at them... Is that a nice thing to do?? {just think! I do not need to be convinced...}

To be honest, it is a public place NOT a hotel room or residential area. So they have the right to party, and make noise.
But when you were not friendly with them how can you expect them to be friendly and nice to you?

You were with your wife and child, fine. I have as much respect for a young family as anybody else; including those young people whom are to be "named and shamed" and are known by some as "Pigs who escape"....

Interesting to see some comments here; people who expect to be respected by others have no respect for others whatsoever....
 
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"To be honest, it is a public place NOT a hotel room or residential area. So they have the right to party, and make noise."


Sorry old chap but there is no right to " Party" ,perhaps you can point me to the relevant act of Parliament,must have missed it.

However on the other hand suspect you may find there are many rules and regulations to ensure the quiet and peaceful enjoyment of a public amenity,with penalties for abuse of such byelaws.

It was boorish and crass of the people who took offence and to threaten with menaces someone asking for the noise to be abated.
Well done you MarkC.

These people need to be advised that their behaviour was not acceptable under any circumstances.Personally believe it took some courage to approach alone,a group of drunken aggresive people at that time of night.
 
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oldgit;3100747 Sorry old chap but there is no right to " Party" said:
Well, in that case there is no right to have a quiet and peaceful place either. Bring me a rule which says everyone must stay quiet for us; a small bunch of boaters who want to enjoy a weekend. A public place is a place where everybody can enjoy it without causing problem.

oldgit;3100747 It was boorish and crass of the people [/QUOTE said:
How do you know that? Have you met them in person? you don't even know the facts?
 
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I agree with "Inception", the OP might have been threatened but showing torch is quite a nasty thing to do.

We motorboaters can not expect everybody to obey ouit rules we "Want" to be in place, some people here have problem with rowers, sailing boats, hire boats, ferries....and now a group of young people who were trying to enjoy their time.
 
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