julians
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Just out of interest, how many litres per hour does this consume at 8 knots?
Nordhavn 62 a someone help put me off this pleeease!
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Deleted User YDKXO
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They wouldnt be doing their jobs if, when they met a customer who was lamenting the disappearance of the 62, they didnt try to steer him to the 63! What do you expect them to say? The 63 is crap, not a patch on the 62?LOL, obviously they forgot to tell that to their sales reps...
Yup thats certainly true. All production boat builders have cut back on build quality especially in response to the financial crisis. The questions are whether it has affected the functionality and reliability of their boats and how good they are at hiding it
longjohnsilver
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My understanding is that Nordhavn have destroyed the mould for the 62!
If anyone seriously considers buying the 62 mentioned in this thread I am told that a thorough survey is absolutely essential. It has apparently been for sale for about 5 yrs with many different brokers, VAT position uncertain. As always, buyer beware.
If anyone seriously considers buying the 62 mentioned in this thread I am told that a thorough survey is absolutely essential. It has apparently been for sale for about 5 yrs with many different brokers, VAT position uncertain. As always, buyer beware.
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Dunno but you can bet it will be more than a 62ft planing boat at 8kts. Less than 1nmpg I would guess. These Nordhavns are heavy boats with a lot of hull to drag through the water (for good reason)
scubaman
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No wonder it's been for sale for so long, they seem very particular about whom to sell 
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Seriously though, a proper ship for sure. I agree that the hours don't seem much (depending on the service history of course).
On the other hand I love the genre and the ship feel of a nordie, but the (wannabe) med boater in me struggles with especially the exterior living spaces that seem very utilitarian on many of these trawler yachts.
.Seriously though, a proper ship for sure. I agree that the hours don't seem much (depending on the service history of course).
On the other hand I love the genre and the ship feel of a nordie, but the (wannabe) med boater in me struggles with especially the exterior living spaces that seem very utilitarian on many of these trawler yachts.
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Mmm, care to elaborate on that? Used N62s normally sell very well AFAIK
Nigelpickin
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There's an easy fix for that, change your priorities.
In life, being too busy with something else usually means being busy making money.
If you are already in a position to purchase a boat like that, money ain't the right priority anymore. :encouragement:
Looking forward to reading your viewing report!
Completely retired but busier than ever, which is good. We have a parade of friends to receive and visit before we head off around the world in May - we also have to get to get our boat to a yard for some work that’s required for the trans Atlantic.
I agree with LJS in that the boat would need a thorough check over, its come down in price dramatically and is now showing vat paid? Which it was not last year; it’s also asking markedly less than any other boat of that vintage that I can see...
It could be a bargain but really for Ann and I we want to be in our perfect boat, which right now has sails, can manage the ICW and keeps us fit and learning new skills. It will be interesting to see if we are in range, financially, of a Nordhavn or Elling E6 when we slow down a little later on...
The boat is just up the road from us so I might try and squeeze in a visit but that’s usually the thin end of an expensive wedge!
MapisM
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Yup, overall it's correct to call the boat utilitarian, and even more so her external spaces.
Certainly far from the ideal Med usage: smallish cockpit(s) even considering both decks, passerelle fitted as a sort of afterthought, and above all no flybridge - to name but a few things which you might criticize.
Otoh, the bow is nothing short of astonishing, and allows to carry tenders of unreal size, which normally you wouldn't dream of, even in an 80 footer. And the p/house is a jewel, which I'd be more than happy to call my own apartment!
Horses for courses, as always with boats.
The N62 surely wasn't designed with the idea of shooting aerial photographs of her with an OB parade sunbathing on bow cushions...
MapisM
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It's bound to be a bit better than that, M.
IIRC, the N62 tankage is almost exactly 10k liters, so if we trust the claim of 3000+ nm range at 8 kts, we can do some math:
3000/8=375 hours
10000/375=27 lph
27lph at 8kts=1.75nmpg
And that's assuming to arrive without a drop of fuel in the tank.
So, depending on how much reserve they considered in the "3000+ nm" range, the actual lph can only be less than 27.
Somewhere between 22 and 24 would be my educated guess.
MapisM
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In your boots, I wouldn't worry about next steps beforehand - you can do that later.
If you've never been onboard a N62, don't miss the opportunity.
If you like her on paper, my bet is that you'll love her in flesh! :encouragement:
Nigelpickin
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Oops - it’s moved to Athens so not so close to me now....it was running out of Gibraltar - looks like it being chartered.
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I think thats optimistic. Some actual figures here from the Nordhavn website on the Atlantic Rally https://www.nordhavn.com/rally/underway/shipslog.htm. The two N62s in the faster group seem to be averaging around 1nmpg or just over at 8kts although interesting to see that the N62 which opted for the slower group seems to have achieved a significantly better fuel consumption. Surprising to see such big variations in the fuel consumption of the three N62s which makes me slightly suspicious. Could this be down to generator use or fin drag or maybe one of the boats was twin engined?
Zing
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I've got the table for the 63, which shows 25lt/hr or 1.45nmpg at 8.1kts.
It's interesting how displacement boats use fuel inefficiently at speeds close to their displacement speed. The 63 will double its consumption and do .69 nmpg at only 1.7kts faster at 9.8kts.
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Not just displacement boats. All boats show a marked increase in fuel consumption as they approach their theoretical max hull speed
Zing
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Of course. In a planning boat you are so much less likely to think of going there. Just speed up a little or slow down a little. In a displacement boat your options are more limited.
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Not altogether true. Many of us with planing boats operate at displacement speeds for long periods to save fuel. Even if you can afford it, consuming diesel at a rate of 250 lph is tiresome
rubberduck
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For me boating is about relaxing, so whilst our boat is capable of 40knts, we will rarely do so. You need to keep very alert at that sort of speed, so plodding along at 6-8knts is quite pleasant.
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Nigelpickin
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Single diesel & no sails as back up.
It had a beefy wing engine and separate fuel/electrical system for that. But nothing like the peace of mind that 3 sails and two engines give
The Nordhavn has 450 hours on the get me home motor I think, which seems high....
Nigelpickin
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Yup, agree with that, we spent most of our time at less than displacement speed in 2016 on Breaking Bad and really enjoyed the slower pace; and that’s without fancy stabilisation like the gear you have specced.