No more heros anymore!

[jimi]

As a lad I had certain heros. Johnny Cunningham & Joe Brown as climbers, Chichester (of course) as a sailor, Denis Law Footballer, Lord Denning Lawyer, Ian MacLeod & Edward Heath Politicians etc

In this day and age I have none .. is that cos I'm getting old or because the information age's arrival has smothered the hero mythology growth?

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[kindredspirit]

Getting old.


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[jimi]

Who's your current heros then?

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[bigmart]

Re: I find

that characters in Film & TV seem to capture my imagination these days. Boss Hogg from the Dukes of Hazzard & Louie from Taxi are two I particularly admire.

Martin

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[jimi]

Re: I find

Must admit Charlie Barlow is a hero .. however the point I was making is does the media exposure, warts and all, ensure that there are no more heroes because we then perceive them "just to be ordinary persons"? Do heros require incomplete information to survive?

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[sailbadthesinner]

today's times has an article about bob champion
i could not remember where i was when he won
i thought it was the seventies but apparently not but now a definite hero
my heros were claire francis and kevin keegan
i remember as i child reading with a torch under the covers the adventures of Robertson's golly (that name would not be allowed now ) and ADC Accutrac
i remember the reports from the boats that went 50 degs south (debehnams was it and some other boat? i forget it has been 14 yrs)
i have over the years come to admire my parents more than ever (no messing)
they put up with a bolshy me for years and recognised that lou was for me long before i did


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[Mirelle]

Most of my boyhood heroes are now dead because they were older than me, or more adventurous than me. or, often, both. But not quite all of them.

Ranulph Twistleton-Wykeham-Fiennes came to give a talk to Cochester Royal Grammar School Geographical Society when I was in the third form and he was still a very junior Army officer - who had just led the first expedition to pass the gorges of the Blue Nile - and he is still a hero to me.

When, as a very penniless undergraduate and cadet member of West Mersea YC I owned a very clapped out old Dragon, kept afloat with plasticine (tip from Maurice Griffiths, by the way - he knew about vey clapped out old boats!) Edward Heath, as Prime Minister and winner of the Fastnet, was invited to a Club dinner. He spent twently minutes talking sailing with by far the least important person in the room and I have never forgotten it. I had lunch with him last month and reminded him.

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[TonyD]

Re: I find

Heros to me, are the people you dream of being, and I haven't stopped doing that - hope I never will!

Play the guitar like Clapton........
Ski like the Herminator..............
Write music like McCartney........

So don't you ever dream of being someone else?

Trouble is, these days, more of my heros are dead!

TonyD

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[sailbadthesinner]

mirelle
is owen parker still about?
i loved his book it is from a different age and pure sailing and fun and not at all 'cashing in' but a collection of memories and wisdom all imho bien sur

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[sailbadthesinner]

Re: I find

write music like maccartney
a true fan

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[qsiv]

can't even see '2468' as a sequence of numbers without thinking 'Fastnet' or 'Admirals Cup' winner!

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[jimi]

Guitar Heroes

Rory Gallagher ... sadly dead now ... another pint of guiness please!

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[longjohnsadler]

Re: Guitar Heroes

Did you ever wake up with those bullfrogs on your mind?

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[Bejasus]

Re: Guitar Heroes

Rory Gallagher - Absolutely
Peter Green - Ditto
Jim Baxter and Dennis Law - /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

SWMBO's 16 yr old son definitely sees Jonny Wilkinson as a hero.

I think it's the way of things these days, where in the UK the press build people up and then do their damndest to publically tear them down again, so true hero's have little time to emerge.

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[Bejasus]

Re: Guitar Heroes

In my town
Messin' with the Kid
Laundromat

Ah.....Live Taste......now where did she hide my harps.

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[longjohnsadler]

Re: Guitar Heroes

Saw him live in Manchester er nineteen seventysomething.

Not sure if Jimis impressed with his guitar work or his alcohol consumption.

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[bigmart]

Re: I do have modern

day heroes. You know people that I aspire to be as good as. Jimi Hendrix, Clapton, B.B. King, Mark Knopfler musically. When you look out, into the world there are a few. I expect that Ellen Macarthur has grabbed the imagination of quite a few younger sailors. For me a man called John Day. Quite simply the best skipper I have ever sailed with. The man who drove me to get more qualified & experienced. The man who gave me the confidence that I was good enough.

I always remember a time when we were sailing up the Solent from the Needles in an Ocean 75, Cutter rigged Ketch, Sail Training boat. The crew, 16 to 20 year olds, were winding John, the Skipper up, saying that he was good at giving orders but he couldn't do the job himself. John was well into his 60's but he and the mate made the whole crew stand back whilst they tacked the boat. One Steering, sometimes with his foot & tailed & the other winched in the headsails, This was manouvre was carried out at least three times before the crew had to eat their words but the man gained the respect of everyone on board that day.

I have many other tales about John but I have always aspired to be just one tenth as accomplished as he was as a sailor & leader of men.

Oh, back to the fictional heroes, how about Penfold from Dangermouse!

Martin

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[Peppermint]

Re: Hero\'s for our time.

If you need some you could do worse than...

David Beckham who's skill as a footballer shrinks to nothing when compared to his courage in the face of vilification for his World Cup sending off and the ridicule of his lifestyle, which to me looks rather like "normal nuclear family" with lots of cash. He has developed into a worthy leader of our national side and a decent roll model.

Steve Redgrave. Well thats just obvious.

Neil Back. A man who never accepted he was to small for International Rugby.

Jason Robinson. A man who proves you can go from yobbo to hero.

Jonny Wilkinson. Well thats just obvious.

Chay Blythe & Robin Knox Johnson who aredifferent poles of the traditional brit hero.

Tracy Edwards and her crew. I've sailed many a mile on her first "Maiden" and they were very tough ladies indeed.

Non of these are my personal hero's but they are worthy of consideration.

My list is full of people who are dead or unknown.

Stanley Mathews
My Dad
Douglas Bader
Winston Churchill
Brunel

That kind of thing. Still I don't think you need hero's really, just examples of people getting on with things and making things happen.








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[Talbot]

I believe that the media have a lot to blame here. They do their best to debunk any real heros unless they are sporting gods. IMHO Lance Armstrong and Steve Redgrave have to qualify due to the obstacles they have had to overcome to reach their achievements :

Lance Armstrong overcoming cancer on his way to his record Tour de France wins

and I believe that Steve Redgraves achievements are unlikely ever to be surpassed despite his health problems.

Additionally it is a word that has really lost its value due to being used incorrectly for so long e.g. He is a hero having actually completed his homework this week! /forums/images/icons/crazy.gif

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[boatless]

Glad to see that Sailbad shared my admiration of Clare Francis. Read all the books etc, then when I was in my mid twenties and leaving a drinks do via a fairly narrow hallway, opened door to - her herself. As she squeezed past I couldn't think of a word to say - came out as a sort of aaaaahhh em my hero.....ine. Awful moment.

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