Nice trip up the Ouse spoiled

Exactly where did i say i had an unacceptable delay... Learn to read...
I said it was stressful trying to pass zig zagging yachts safely, clearly not an uncommon sensation as others have posted, in a considerably less aggressive tone than yours.
I would say i look forward to meeting you on the river but you're stuck in a marina apparently
 
mark.adams said:
Exactly where did i say i had an unacceptable delay... Learn to read...
I said it was stressful trying to pass zig zagging yachts safely, clearly not an uncommon sensation as others have posted, in a considerably less aggressive tone than yours.
I would say i look forward to meeting you on the river but you're stuck in a marina apparently
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Yep, boat stuck in a marina,

In Portugal. Me back in UK.

On the way to The Med. In company. Two other Mobos. One of which also ran into the > mile long net that I hit. New shafts going in next Wednesday.

I have absolutely no idea why my profile has any bearing on my opinion, assuming I'm allowed one, but to have a day spoiled by 3 yachts tacking strikes me as someone needing a reality check.

Or perhaps you're just easily stressed.

It does read like that.
 
Just_sayin' said:
Yep, boat stuck in a marina,

In Portugal. Me back in UK.

On the way to The Med. In company. Two other Mobos. One of which also ran into the > mile long net that I hit. New shafts going in next Wednesday.

I have absolutely no idea why my profile has any bearing on my opinion, assuming I'm allowed one, but to have a day spoiled by 3 yachts tacking strikes me as someone needing a reality check.

Or perhaps you're just easily stressed.

It does read like that.
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No it doesn't.
Just sayin'.
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lisilou said:
No it doesn't.

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Well I just hope that the next time you pootle down The Hamble that your day isn't spoiled by having to knock the engines into neutral for some unspecified time whilst all those annoying saily boats do what daily boats do, sail. I really don't know how I coped when I used to keep my Mobo in East Cowes Marina.
 
mark.adams said:
Started out with the best of intentions, came across a trio of sailing boats zig zagging across the river making it incredibly difficult for anyone to pass from either direction. I understand power gives way to sail but these three, quite close together made it very stressful trying to pass them without hitting them, the Ouse isn't that wide at the best of times...
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Those of us that started out on inland waters know exactly how you feel, but rest assured, you do get used to them.
Don't be put off by them and enjoy the river.
 
Hey Mr "Just Sayin" The Gt River Ouse is very long and very narrow and to have saily boats in front of you zig zagging all over the place can be quite annoying if the opportunity to pass is not possible, yes, Mark could have waited for a gap and then floored it and swamped them, or he could have just cruised straight through them or he could have just turned around and given up, which he did.

The Ouse is not idea for sail boats and IMHO they should have given way, but by the sound of it, they didn't.

KK
 
Poor mark.adams, he only come on here to tell us about his experience.
Many have judged his helmsman ship yet they know nothing about his boating experience, we obviously have experienced owners ( just saying) who could offer him some help but instead try and ridicule him, there is no room on this forum for this. Out of interest how did you manage to run into a 1 mile long fishing net, was it in the dark or were you not paying attention to what was in front of you? I bet your insurer loves you.

Many boat owners including myself started boating on the rivers in a motor boat, is there anything wrong with that? I have boated on the broads where sail boats are in vast numbers, it a patience game a bit like EVERY time I take my boat in and out up and down the Hamble river its how you handle yourself that counts. One thing I always do is not to bully a a yacht for going slow wether there under power or sail, in return I expect the same back, I like many don't take kindly to bad sailors in restricted areas like the Hamble river, I've often made this known as long as its fair to do so.
 
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I became entangled (literally) within a bunch of dinghy's on the Hamble the other day. stuck behind a good number of them (not racing). A bunch of racing dingys then approached from the rear shouting all manner of abuse for being on their stretch of water (comments of colregs, notice to mariners and tw@t were hurled in this direction). found it hard to get out the way of the race with the other dingies all around me. I managed to get into one of the fairways out of their way in the end to watch them 'race' further up river a 0.5knts :) :)

Racing put to one side as I understand that bit, just couldn't get out of their way due to the flappy things to the front and side of me. I find it difficult to understand the hard nosed attitude a good number of dingy owners have sticking 110% to the rule book when in one of these things knowing everyone must hang back whilst they meander slooooooooowly up a river not giving a toss about those needing to wait behind them. There's rules of the road in a motor car yet we don't follow rules to the letter, many a time we stop on a main road to let someone out of a side street or pass us if we're not in a rush because it's the courteous thing to do. It appears this gentlemanly way of conducting oneself is alien to some dinghy sailors.

I've come to the conclusion that myself and the special dinghy types are very different animals... I'm grateful for being sure that I'm the nicer of the two and believe me, that's saying something ;)
 
volvopaul said:
Poor mark.adams, he only come on here to tell us about his experience.
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I was going to post something similar but found myself with very little data, pootling up the Truro River and then back through Carrick Roads on my way to Falmouth Marina. Plenty of sailors tacking in the narrow channels but nothing compared to the irratic behaviour of the kyackers and paddleboarders. On a river, estuary or narrow channel it is all to easy to get frustrated or be annoyed by what others 'should be doing'.

The best way to enjoy the more busy transits is to take your time, get experience and enjoy the satisfaction of understading how to manoeuvre your boat in as many situations as you are safely able.

It is all too easy to get wound up by others but its the challenge they present that creates at least some of the fun!

What really is a shame is the tone of response from some regarding this thread. I cant help but think that there would be a broader contribution from forum members if it were not for fear of being ridiculed or lambasted by a forum 'expert'. Bad form in my opinion, certainly not pathetic but bad form none the less....
 
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You don't have to "get out of the way" of a racing fleet coming up behind you, they have to go around you ( just like they do the dinghies ahead you say were slowing you down) and I am sure any racing sailor would know that. Stopping a sailing boat to allow another boat to overtake isn't as easy as stopping a car though, even harder than say switching off a motorboats engines in a limited space to drift while others tried to go round you, as without a throttle you then have to find the wind again to get moving, and that would sometimes create even more of a hazard - try switching off your engine and drifting on wind and tide in the middle of the Hamble river sometime to let some other boats go past you and see if you get shouted at, I reckon you would be...:)
 
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Just_sayin' said:
Well I just hope that the next time you pootle down The Hamble that your day isn't spoiled by having to knock the engines into neutral for some unspecified time whilst all those annoying saily boats do what daily boats do, sail. I really don't know how I coped when I used to keep my Mobo in East Cowes Marina.
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Oh dear. LOL
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Driving from Lymington to Lyndhurst today I was behind a 4x4 towing a rib who was trying to overtake two cyclists riding side by side, neither wearing helmets. After much hooting and reciprocal swearing he eventually powered past just before a blind bend. I don't know who was more to blame, but I guess if it had all gone wrong and ended up in court then the rib towing driver would have carried the majority of the responsibility.

Seems like the world's just becoming angrier and angrier, with more frazzled, indignant, desperate, furious, pressured, entitled, stressed people every where you look. I'm not holding my breath for it to improve all that much, in fact with traditional leisure boats being replaced by jetskis, paddleboards, wakeboards, International Moths, kayaks, and goodness knows what else, it's a fair bet that the pressure on the water and on sailor's tempers will just keep on increasing.

Unfortunately, other than a self administered dollop of zen like calm, I can't really think of any solutions.
 
Context is so important if one is to have an opinion.

Me: 48’ YACHT. Motoring out of Chi harbour, or trying to. Got tangled up with the biggest group of arrogant t%ssers i have ever experienced in a long time ‘sailing’. They were racing dinghies and day boats that ranged from Toppers through to 20 knot (?) Moths (?) up on foils, mixed in with those lovely J class look-alikes from Itchenor. No matter where we, and numerous others, went we were shouted at and abused. No amount of manoeuvring helped. I seem to remember people on here complaining and letters being sent to the organising clubs. Trip spoiled? Nope. A small part of it was stressful. Finally got through, rest of day great fun.

Me: In my MOBO hitting 42 knots in The Solent. Open exhausts. Saw quite a few yachts ahead and obviously arrived quite quickly. Start of a RORC race, could NOT get through despite best efforts and even blipping throttle to slowly make way through ran risk of back-filling exhausts. Trip spoiled? Nope. A small part of it was stressful. Finally got through, rest of day great fun.

Me: Racing YACHT in the Round Island Race. Definitely on for 2nd or 3rd in class and gaining on leader. A MOBO decided to come and sit to windward blanketing us and hitting us with wash. Finished 7th after 10+ hours of intense work. DAY spoiled? You bet.

So, a fair bit of experience on both sides of the fence.

I’m sorry but I really can’t see how meeting 3 yachts tacking towards me can upset someone so much they have to rush here to tell us.

My bad.:nonchalance:
 
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You don't have to "get out of the way" of a racing fleet coming up behind you, they have to go around you ( just like they do the dinghies ahead you say were slowing you down) and I am sure any racing sailor would know that. Stopping a sailing boat to allow another boat to overtake isn't as easy as stopping a car though, even harder than say switching off a motorboats engines in a limited space to drift while others tried to go round you, as without a throttle you then have to find the wind again to get moving, and that would sometimes create even more of a hazard - try switching off your engine and drifting on wind and tide in the middle of the Hamble river sometime to let some other boats go past you and see if you get shouted at, I reckon you would be...:)
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I was holding station and this loud mouth laa dee daa type woman starting shouting (yes shouting) " get off the race course!!!! ".. this spurred her colleagues on and they all had a go. bit of a chuckle as it goes, they didn't take too kindly when I said "you're not exactly going anywhere fast are you" ? seriously, they were pretty much going nowhere but working so very very hard at achieving that outcome :) :)
 
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