Adios
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fantasist sadly. Dreaming of past days where I could potter and sail on my own with no time to be backYou are a poet
Nice little boat
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Daydream believer
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Not practical for lounging is it? Gap between the seat & back for your rear to drop through. A rail to bash your head on. Cannot sit lengthways ( with head leaning on the upright section) on the berth as some twit has put things on the bulkhead & there is no cushion there because it needs a trotter box.
Then, let's face it, Once you have been up one muddy creek, with the view blocked by a grassy bank, you have been up them all.
Just a case of looking through the picture to see the faults & you will see that it is not all sweetness & light
Wansworth
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Daydreamer you are a painNot practical for lounging is it? Gap between the seat & back for your rear to drop through. A rail to bash your head on. Cannot sit lengthways ( with head leaning on the upright section) on the berth as some twit has put things on the bulkhead & there is no cushion there because it needs a trotter box.
Just a case of looking through the picture to see the faults & you will see that it is not all sweetness & light
Adios
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I'm suspecting a little of the apparent beam is estate agent lens magic but still it looks spacious enough. Can easily remove things from the bulkhead. Looks like a cushion at the galley end but I'd rather sit at the forward end with the companionway in my view. It isn't a la-z-boy level of lounging but you can have too much of a good thing. I like the waterproof covers better than more comfortable cloth that is going to soak water up and make it awkward to stay ready for action.Not practical for lounging is it? Gap between the seat & back for your rear to drop through. A rail to bash your head on. Cannot sit lengthways ( with head leaning on the upright section) on the berth as some twit has put things on the bulkhead & there is no cushion there because it needs a trotter box.
Then, let's face it, Once you have been up one muddy creek, with the view blocked by a grassy bank, you have been up them all.
Just a case of looking through the picture to see the faults & you will see that it is not all sweetness & light
But as for being bored by the view I think you're missing the subtle delights of ditch crawling. And in some ways the more muddy and in some important ways the less pretty the better. Never crowded with hullabaloos or grockles on a drizzly day up Pyefleet channel, but the birds are still there warbling on the bubbling mud and the wavelets lapping at the hull. I find clinker hulls a bit too noisy, but this boat should be ideal and it does sound different on a wooden hull from my limited experience of them. Tucked away in a creek, tucked up in a cozy dark wood cabin with just a paraffin lamp for heat and light. That's escapism at its finest. Poking your head out at dawn, breakfast sizzling in the pan, coffee in hand...
Wansworth
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Yachting monthly hypeI'm suspecting a little of the apparent beam is estate agent lens magic but still it looks spacious enough. Can easily remove things from the bulkhead. Looks like a cushion at the galley end but I'd rather sit at the forward end with the companionway in my view. It isn't a la-z-boy level of lounging but you can have too much of a good thing. I like the waterproof covers better than more comfortable cloth that is going to soak water up and make it awkward to stay ready for action.
But as for being bored by the view I think you're missing the subtle delights of ditch crawling. And in some ways the more muddy and in some important ways the less pretty the better. Never crowded with hullabaloos or grockles on a drizzly day up Pyefleet channel, but the birds are still there warbling on the bubbling mud and the wavelets lapping at the hull. I find clinker hulls a bit too noisy, but this boat should be ideal and it does sound different on a wooden hull from my limited experience of them. Tucked away in a creek, tucked up in a cozy dark wood cabin with just a paraffin lamp for heat and light. That's escapism at its finest. Poking your head out at dawn, breakfast sizzling in the pan, coffee in hand...
fisherman
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Remember that before about 1960/70 ish, we had nothing but wood boats to play with. We managed.
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC
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Many many years ago, I had a wooden boat and I spent all my spare time looking after it. Nowadays, I look at wooden boats from a distance and I think they are beautiful when varnished and polished, but I will never have another wooden boat; give me a plastic fantastic boat anytime.
Stemar
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Hey, we even survived without forums. How on earth did we manage?
Stemar
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I'm second to none in my appreciation of a beautiful wooden boat. I'm also second to none in my determination never to own one until I'm rich enough to tell may man (or woman, as long as she's a skilled boatwright) to take car of that bit of varnish.
Poignard
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We managed very well, and enjoyed our sailing and even doing the maintenance.
Wansworth
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I thinkI would rather paint than polish!…….the whole maintenance gambit was a fairytale to sell the new fangled Grp boats,too late now but wooden boats were the original sustainable products,now we are stuck with tons of plastic waste
fisherman
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Obs GRP brought boating to the masses. Before that it was strictly the province of those with plenty of time and money..............
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Wansworth
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No there were converted lifeboats,home built plywood craft…..z four tonners,Hillyardsetc
Poignard
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Yes, boats that you looked at, even if you didn't like the look of them. Interesting boats with different colours and different quirks of rigging.
Now, when someone invites you round for a drink they have to give you a pontoon number so you can find them amongst all the identical boats.
No more "You can't miss us. Look for the the green gaff ketch."
Wansworth
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Or course they have to meet you at the gate or you cannot get on the pontoon……all rather sad
Adios
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Was it once more normal for a gentleman of even modest means to have his yard do the upkeep over winter? I might be thinking 100 years ago admittedly. But maybe someone remembers that being more normal in more recent times?
Sadly it seems to me the mortgage debt trap means the wages of Bob the shipwright have to be higher to funnel money to the banksters for the debt they forced on us with vulture lending techniques that inflated house prices. Now we can't afford the hourly rate Bob needs to pay the banks for his house. Its a big part of why we can't make things cheaply in this country, makes sense that we can't afford to repair things also.
Sadly it seems to me the mortgage debt trap means the wages of Bob the shipwright have to be higher to funnel money to the banksters for the debt they forced on us with vulture lending techniques that inflated house prices. Now we can't afford the hourly rate Bob needs to pay the banks for his house. Its a big part of why we can't make things cheaply in this country, makes sense that we can't afford to repair things also.
KevinV
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For a man with your nom de plume you really are dreadfully prozaic at timesNot practical for lounging is it? Gap between the seat & back for your rear to drop through. A rail to bash your head on. Cannot sit lengthways ( with head leaning on the upright section) on the berth as some twit has put things on the bulkhead & there is no cushion there because it needs a trotter box.
Then, let's face it, Once you have been up one muddy creek, with the view blocked by a grassy bank, you have been up them all.
Just a case of looking through the picture to see the faults & you will see that it is not all sweetness & light
Daydream believer
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What you have to realise is that I tried it-Twice. The second time 25 years after the first. It was then that I realised how much the first caused so many bruises. It was so uncomfortable, involved so much work & was so out of date. It may have been great for the ages. But now??For a man with your nom de plume you really are dreadfully prozaic at times
It is amazing how quickly dreams can be broken, once reality sets in
Stemar
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IIRC from my history lessons, it was normal for a middle class family to have servants up pretty much up to WW1. The shortage of people of working age that that particular piece of idiocy caused started the increase in the cost of labour that's still going on. In the 19th century, the prosperous wouldn't have dreamt of DIY, but someone of my means wouldn't have dreamt of having a pleasure boat. Well a small rowboat perhaps, but certainly not a yacht.