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SWMBO has informed me that if I get a bigger nicer boat with hot water & a heater, then she'll be more inclined to come sailing. Having said that she far prefers hammering around in 12' of wet dinghy.

So here's the spec:

Length: 30-33 (max 33 for cheap winter storage).
Budget: 50k - & that includes any new stuff I need.
Age less than 20 but less is better.
Biggish cockpit with wheel steering. Actually I like tillers but SWMBO wants room. Current boat has a big deep cockpit but a tiller & rudder that's not transom hung takes up a lot of room.
Reasonable performance but forgiving enough for me to sail single handed - which is what I do most of at the moment anyway.
Reasonable build quality. (make what you want of this).....

So any ideas please.
 
I like to access the cumulative wisdom of the forum.

SWMBO has informed me that if I get a bigger nicer boat with hot water & a heater, then she'll be more inclined to come sailing. Having said that she far prefers hammering around in 12' of wet dinghy.

So here's the spec:

Length: 30-33 (max 33 for cheap winter storage).
Budget: 50k - & that includes any new stuff I need.
Age less than 20 but less is better.
Biggish cockpit with wheel steering. Actually I like tillers but SWMBO wants room. Current boat has a big deep cockpit but a tiller & rudder that's not transom hung takes up a lot of room.
Reasonable performance but forgiving enough for me to sail single handed - which is what I do most of at the moment anyway.
Reasonable build quality. (make what you want of this).....

So any ideas please.

Many early 2000's AWBs such as Bavaria 32, Benny 323, Jeanneau 32 etc would meet that brief. You are located in an area where you could see 4 or 5 in a day to compare what you can get for your money.
 
Bav 30/31/32. You can get a good 2006/2007 example with all the toys for £40k-45k. SWMBO will love it.
 
has she sailed on a bigger yacht ? flotilla trip ?

else you might be using your money to buy her a boat she does not actually use ....

I agree

just make sure that it is small enough to handle by yourself

I see so many blokes sailing boats specified by their wives on the basis that they will sail more

woman speak with forked tongue



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In cases like this I would normally suggest the old Bavaria 32 on the grounds that it might please, is roomy and, most importantly, should be easy to sell when she finally admits she is not interested.

Not in this case though, being a dinghy sailor she might appreciate a more sprightly performance.

Have a look at one of these:

http://www.humphreysdesign.com/763/elan-333/[/QUOTE
+1 Great boats, although they do not have the interior volume of a Bav, it is such a rewarding boat to sail, even in light airs you seldom need the diesel.
 
Now i am going off the wall. Of she likes small and fast what about one of the small J's? Still no running water but sounds like she likes sailing. There might be compromise out there in your budget but get her sailing on something fun.

Hot and cold showers are very nice but if she likes simple sailing that's not what she's going to get.

As for spinnakers go gently the other think she might be thinking is that she cannot handle the boat you have so she might as well be passenger in comfort.

Women's toung's in there mind are not forked they are just absolutely useless at saying what they want to say when it comes to boats.
 
Why are you asking us? Well, actually, the fact you are asking us means that several people's predictions of your wife changing her mind and leaving you sailing alone will probably be correct!

What you should be doing is asking her!

Sit down with her with a whole lot of boat specs, reviews, pictures and stats and work out a shortlist. Then go together and look as many of those models as you can, and finally settle on just a couple of types and look for a good specimen (meanwhile something totally different will turn up which she will fall in love with, and you will buy!)

What I am trying to say is that she needs to be involved at every stage in the process. You may think it will be helpful to come up with initial suggestions - no - that is likely to put her off, and it will become your choice of boat, and you will end up sailing it by yourself.

Most men do not recognise they are being patronising. Women are very sensitive to being manipulated (having been patronised by men who think they are being helpful for all their lives).

Yes, I am being harsh. But if you really want to involve your wife, then throw away this thread, and start by talking to her!
I suspect all the answers above are given by men, some with non-sailing wives, but I am female, and sailing happily in an equal partnership with by male partner.
 
......... Then go together and look as many of those models as you can, and finally settle on just a couple of types and look for a good specimen (meanwhile something totally different will turn up which she will fall in love with, and you will buy!)............
That's funny, that's exactly what happened to me...
And 10 years later, we still sail together.
 
£50k would buy you an awful lot of chartering. If SWMBO only sails with you infrequently then charter something suitable somewhere nice. At the very least, you may find a boat that you/her/both of you find ideal
 
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