New purchase

Greg2 said:
The S43 in the frame is our friends old boat as mentioned in post #7. I did their first trip to sea in it with them a while back. Interestingly they always liked the Princess V42 😉

Something worth commenting on is oldgit’s perspective on flybridge v sportscruiser - the V42 has a lot of canvas, which can be a PITA whereas the hardtop on the S43 minimises the canvas, which makes things a lot easier. Both have very usable space all year round if there is heating in the cockpit and the accommodation on the S43, including the cockpit, is notably better than many flybridge boats to be honest.

Both nice boats.
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I did notice the agent had a few problems with the canvas when I was viewing the V42, he actually broke one of the zips in front of me......oops.......it would be really great if I could possibly have a chat to the previous owner just to get a different perspective on the boat I'm flying over to view her next week sometime and will make a decision then.
Regards.
 
I keep looking at your potential Sealine and being the owner of a similar age S37 (from new) I am seriously envious. It’s clearly been well cared for and from the mileage used as well (not just sat in a marina being polished every weekend)
My ceiling lining needed replacing, yours looks ok but have a good look at ceiling and wall linings.
Navigation display looks to be the original so some haggling may be possible there because it’s time for an electronics upgrade.
 
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oldgit said:
Image over practicality. :eek:
Some might suggest there is a good reason that the Sealine has done more hours (assuming similar age and location.).
Weather.!
The flybridge a far more practical piece of kit which could be used comfortably throughout the year , even to the extent of merely going aboard , turning the heating on and spending a cosy wet winter weekend aboard, interior space !
The decision could be made easier by deciding what sort of boating you are likely to want to do.

Boat able to be used/ enjoyed all year round , even when not actually underway and probably with more folks aboard ......in comfort.
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Hoping that your planned trips out coincides with the couple of decent days out mid August when you can actually remove all the bits of blue tent on the "sports boat" .
Ps Might be good idea to have some sort of plan regards your crew getting out of the V42 cockpit and going forward when inclement weather requires all the wet weather canvas on the V42.to be in place., course if it never rains where you intend boating , no problemo . :)
On our moorings it is noticeable , after the initial enthusiasm of purchase, which type of boats rarely, if ever move.
No doubt predicable protestations to follow about how some folks use their boats all year round.
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Ignoring for a moment that the Sealine in question isn't a flybridge boat...

Fight the flybridge tonneau off to sit up there all alone being blasted to death by the wind because it's so exposed while everyone else shelters in the cockpit? No thanks, I'll take a sports cruiser with its far more sheltered helm position (yes you can helm a flybridge boat inside, but I don't go boating to hide away inside) and all the crew/guests on one level together. When you stop you've got a far bigger cockpit with plenty of seating and lovely views rather than everyone sat in a row side by side like they're waiting for a bus, staring into the boat with the view behind them.

And if you can't manage to undo a zip to step onto the side deck, how are you going to manage on a flybridge boat where you have to do exactly the same thing if the aft canopy is up?
 
Just looking at the details of the Princess V42. Lovely looking boat for sure, although the 'extensive refit' seems to run to a new telly, nothing else at all is mentioned (and everything looks original).

But over £200,000 for a near two decade old V42, is that really what these things are fetching now? I know prices went up during Covid, but it can't have cost much more than that when it was new surely?
 
ari said:
Just looking at the details of the Princess V42. Lovely looking boat for sure, although the 'extensive refit' seems to run to a new telly, nothing else at all is mentioned (and everything looks original).

But over £200,000 for a near two decade old V42, is that really what these things are fetching now? I know prices went up during Covid, but it can't have cost much more than that when it was new surely?
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If you look at the video on boats and outboards it lists all the work carried out , I'd appreciate your feedback.
 
Roy McCluney said:
If you look at the video on boats and outboards it lists all the work carried out , I'd appreciate your feedback.
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I had a scan through - I don't have a spare 15 mins to watch the whole thing so apologies if I've missed anything. Thoughts would be:

It says they've lowered the engines. That seems a little... odd. I'd be inclined to think Princess probably knew where to fit the engines. A new one on me.

Two new drives (thick end of £30K worth there I'd guess), I'd be intrigued to know what happened to the previous ones (ie, why were they replaced)?

As to the rest, a new canopy and new internal carpets seems to be the extent of the 'extensive refit', everything else looks original. It doesn't seem to have run to mattresses for the beds, where have they gone?

Spec is perfectly okay, but nothing special. No generator, air con or passerelle (the latter not much use for boarding in the UK but very helpful as a tender lift).

Overall, it's a nice boat, looks loved. The engine lowering thing is weird, spec is average and the mattresses are missing (again a bit weird) would be my feedback I think.
 
ari said:
I had a scan through - I don't have a spare 15 mins to watch the whole thing so apologies if I've missed anything. Thoughts would be:

It says they've lowered the engines. That seems a little... odd. I'd be inclined to think Princess probably knew where to fit the engines. A new one on me.

Two new drives (thick end of £30K worth there I'd guess), I'd be intrigued to know what happened to the previous ones (ie, why were they replaced)?

As to the rest, a new canopy and new internal carpets seems to be the extent of the 'extensive refit', everything else looks original. It doesn't seem to have run to mattresses for the beds, where have they gone?

Spec is perfectly okay, but nothing special. No generator, air con or passerelle (the latter not much use for boarding in the UK but very helpful as a tender lift).

Overall, it's a nice boat, looks loved. The engine lowering thing is weird, spec is average and the mattresses are missing (again a bit weird) would be my feedback I think.
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I really appreciate that, I was wondering about the engines being lowered myself.....ref: mattresses , the new Purchaser can select their own without any extra cost.....but I'm a little wary as too why the outdrives have been replaced.....
Haven't got to that subject in our conversation as yet but I think I may just pass on the Princess.
 
The video states that the engines have been lowered in the quest to eradicate the vibration that these boats are known for.

So at a guess I'd say that if there really has been a bad vibration issue then there's a good chance that these might have fatigued the outdrives to the point that only new units could resolve the problem with them.

Additionally I'd add that the best people to resolve a vibration would have been Princess themselves and surely they would have tried so if they didn't get this right with this or the later boats (it being a known issue according to the video), then I think there's little chance a chap with a theory and a local boat yard to assist him will have it sorted either, hence likely why it's up for sale from the hard rather than in the water as he probably tried and and thought f**k, it's still doing it !

I'd walk on by and seek a factory original boat (the Sealine 43), that rides well as it is, and then any upgrades you do such as navonics or trim and finishes, you'll know exactly what has been done.
 
Parabolica said:
The video states that the engines have been lowered in the quest to eradicate the vibration that these boats are known for.

So at a guess I'd say that if there really has been a bad vibration issue then there's a good chance that these might have fatigued the outdrives to the point that only new units could resolve the problem with them.

Additionally I'd add that the best people to resolve a vibration would have been Princess themselves and surely they would have tried so if they didn't get this right with this or the later boats (it being a known issue according to the video), then I think there's little chance a chap with a theory and a local boat yard to assist him will have it sorted either, hence likely why it's up for sale from the hard rather than in the water as he probably tried and and thought f**k, it's still doing it !

I'd walk on by and seek a factory original boat (the Sealine 43), that rides well as it is, and then any upgrades you do such as navonics or trim and finishes, you'll know exactly what has been done.
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I've certainly never heard of vibration problems with Princess V42s, and there are plenty of them about. Has anyone else?

As to shaking the outdrives to pieces - that would need to be quite spectacular vibration! You'd have thought the first owner might have noticed and got it resolved by Princess when the boat was new.

It's an interesting one - I'm sure there must be a good explanation.
 
Parabolica said:
The video states that the engines have been lowered in the quest to eradicate the vibration that these boats are known for.

So at a guess I'd say that if there really has been a bad vibration issue then there's a good chance that these might have fatigued the outdrives to the point that only new units could resolve the problem with them.

Additionally I'd add that the best people to resolve a vibration would have been Princess themselves and surely they would have tried so if they didn't get this right with this or the later boats (it being a known issue according to the video), then I think there's little chance a chap with a theory and a local boat yard to assist him will have it sorted either, hence likely why it's up for sale from the hard rather than in the water as he probably tried and and thought f**k, it's still doing it !

I'd walk on by and seek a factory original boat (the Sealine 43), that rides well as it is, and then any upgrades you do such as navonics or trim and finishes, you'll know exactly what has been done.
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Really appreciate your insight and I do agree with you.....
 
ari said:
I've certainly never heard of vibration problems with Princess V42s, and there are plenty of them about. Has anyone else?

As to shaking the outdrives to pieces - that would need to be quite spectacular vibration! You'd have thought the first owner might have noticed and got it resolved by Princess when the boat was new.

It's an interesting one - I'm sure there must be a good explanation.
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I'm not getting any teal answers from the agent only that the owner wanted to do a complete refit.......think ill just give this one a miss, thanks guys, really appreciate your feedback.
 
I had assumed that as you talked about fresh water use and the boats are for sale from balloch that Loch Lomond might be involved but from your name and flying over then the Irish loughs may be a likely culprit.
speed limits may not Come into the equation so you may then be able to use the power if only to give the engines an Italian tune up.
drives are marmite so dependent on taste but on Loch Lomond the water levels can vary dramatically from day to day. So loss of legs may be driver error
some of the boats on the loch had a reputation of being floating caravans with oversized bars so might not have been used much clue look for kids speedboat jet ski etc
 
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