kcrane
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Just a few pics...
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New Portofino 48
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Whitelighter
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Those steps look steep, no handrail, nothing to grab. Dont much fancy getting down those in any kind of sea. Also, a bit rubbish for kids I would have thought.
Is it two or three cabin?
Is it two or three cabin?
kcrane
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There you go being all practical.
The stairs weren't too bad actually, but better for a marina than a nasty side-on swell it has to be said.
It is two cabins. The Portofino 47 felt quite small, and yet now the 48 has a mid cabin with fabulous windows (and quite well sized), a larger saloon, the fore-cabin is as before, but now with sliding berths, they have added a garage (which had the obligatory Williams 285) and it still has a powered bathing platform.
Not sure about gold gelcoat tho...
The stairs weren't too bad actually, but better for a marina than a nasty side-on swell it has to be said.
It is two cabins. The Portofino 47 felt quite small, and yet now the 48 has a mid cabin with fabulous windows (and quite well sized), a larger saloon, the fore-cabin is as before, but now with sliding berths, they have added a garage (which had the obligatory Williams 285) and it still has a powered bathing platform.
Not sure about gold gelcoat tho...
Richard Shead
Slipped Anchor
Ask how much
That paint job is then try and work out how much it is for the big beast behind...
That paint job is then try and work out how much it is for the big beast behind...
jimmy_the_builder
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Apparently it's a 320 in the garage, not a 285 ... and that paint job is a bonkers £150k. I thought it was pretty nice though all told. That one on the stand was a slightly scary £720k plus vat...
Cheers
Jimmy
kcrane
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"slightly" shows a mastery of the art of understatement
rubberduck
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Preferred the 47, something about this one that makes me think it will date all of a sudden one day & be very hard to sell on. Bit like Ikea.
jfm
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Looks nice, esp the interior. Might be the settings on my puter, but it looks like gold with a lot of green in it to me. Also, s'seeker continue their longstnading practice of making **** dashboards. On a long night passage, imagine sitting in the helm chair. You cant even see the plotter, and you have to get up and walk over to it to adjust anything or investigate/marpa a radar target. I just dont get it. On a fast night passage a navigator is working the plotter controls quite actively in my experience, so the plotters need to be brought closer to the people. I guess I must be in a small minority in thinking all this?
tcm
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ah but there's a different set ergonomic requirements of a sunseeker dashboard, i'm sure it's been mentioned before...
jfm
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Ah yes true, silly me doh. I wonder what OB rating Wakeup gives to as gold 'fino48 with a bendoverable dashboard?
Where r u btw? I haven't AISed you lately on t'web. Happy 2010
MapisM
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No, you aren't.
It's rather the "night passage" and "Sunseeker" on the same sentence which is a sort of oxymoron for most S/skr owners, I would believe.
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Agree with Jez. Those stairs are badly designed but overall, I think she's a winner. It really shows the benefit of IPS in terms of releasing space for the accomodation. That midships master cabin would be impossible with shaft drive. I particularly like the scissor action guest berth and I can't understand why more builders don't do this as you can't ask mates or teenage kids to share a double berth. The other feature I like is the option to delete the tender garage/sunbed for an enlarged cockpit. I can't see the point in wasting cockpit space on a sunbed for UK waters boating.
But, ouch, £720k, even if it's a fully loaded model is taking the piss. I wonder how much of this is the extra cost of the IPS drives?
But, ouch, £720k, even if it's a fully loaded model is taking the piss. I wonder how much of this is the extra cost of the IPS drives?
mjf
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Not sure about gold gelcoat tho...
I was told its actually spray painted gelcoat.
Wonder how easy this would be to keep looking sharp with marine bangs and dings - fenders rubbing etc etc
I was told its actually spray painted gelcoat.
Wonder how easy this would be to keep looking sharp with marine bangs and dings - fenders rubbing etc etc
mjf
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If you think the Portofino helm is bad you should take a look at the gold beast behind it.
This one has a rare 'flybridge' helm that when seated you struggle to see the bow as the saloon roof is raised up in front of you...
PowerYachtBlog
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720k is too much for a 14 metre, it costs as much as a Riva
the mid cabin is nice but there is other similar sized boats who give this at a cheaper price, Abs 47 or Atlantis 50x5 comes to mind...
if it is golden or metalic color it should not be gelcoat but more paint
is not a bad but for less that price you can get a Princess V56 or 52 Targa GT, I think its price will make her sell much less
the mid cabin is nice but there is other similar sized boats who give this at a cheaper price, Abs 47 or Atlantis 50x5 comes to mind...
if it is golden or metalic color it should not be gelcoat but more paint
is not a bad but for less that price you can get a Princess V56 or 52 Targa GT, I think its price will make her sell much less
kcrane
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You're right PowerYB, here I am looking at boats in the mid-40ft range where £300k-£350k inc the VAT gets you a nice and reasonably modern model, and a used Portofino 47 would be at the top of that range, yet a 2010 Portofino 48 is £850k inc VAT?
I wouldn't be surprised if my entire budget would go in the depreciation in the first 18 months on that boat.
Still liked it as a marina apartment tho!
I wouldn't be surprised if my entire budget would go in the depreciation in the first 18 months on that boat.
Still liked it as a marina apartment tho!
jimmy_the_builder
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Just to clarify, the 720k included the 150k for the 'look-at-me-I'm-well-flash-innit' paintjob, so I guess that's 570k + vat list for a more standard boat - which was loaded up with every extra they do.
Cheers
Jimmy
PowerYachtBlog
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now that is also ridiculious 150k for a paint job. The best yard in the world will charge you 100k EUROS to paint an 18 metre, and these are SOF prices.
Now with the hassle a yard has to make that paint compared to a builder, this is just mad
I think the Abs 47 is still much less to this, I think it is 450 EURO + VAT
and those Abs handle wonderfully with IPS, something the 47 Portofino never used to do
Now with the hassle a yard has to make that paint compared to a builder, this is just mad
I think the Abs 47 is still much less to this, I think it is 450 EURO + VAT
and those Abs handle wonderfully with IPS, something the 47 Portofino never used to do
Richard Shead
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From what I understand
The paint job ont he 47 is 150K the paint job on the big beast is around the 700 mark.
The paint job ont he 47 is 150K the paint job on the big beast is around the 700 mark.
captainalex
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Afaik the '48' is actually closer to 16m with the hydraulic platform