New Fairline Squadron 53

MapisM said:
Your requirements scream Itama 54 as the most obvious upgrade - in your boots, I wouldn't waste time looking at anything else!
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Yeh , was trying to think of a way of letting PeteM down ,but now you've read it -here goes
Googling the Targa52 -it's got smaller engines than my current 42/48
63GTO -looks slow on paper top speed 32-34 so knock off 6or so Med fouling tax -leaves mid twenties --hmn 24 -26 cruise guess ?
Whlie a Itama 62 has 1400 MAN, tops out 40 knot s -cruises 37 or at least over 30 + with same "Med fouling tax "

This is exactly the point I,am trying to make above -conquest sales from exsisting players it's gonna be tough .
With a name nicked off a famous Italian F1 teams 60,s road version -GTO -for any brand credibility the performance has to hang tough !
 
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MapisM said:
But restricting the direct access to stbd walkaround from the cockpit (as it appears from the drawing) is a very odd idea indeed, as Deleted User pointed out.
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Out of interest, Princess do the same on the V62

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Maybe there is a flip up leaf to the cockpit table, and a small seat pad which can be easily removed to get access to the side deck from the cockpit?

There are certainly some things to like about the Sq53, and 4 cabins on a 55' aft-cockpit shaft drive boat is a first as far as I know. I'm not keen on Fairline's galley aft layout though, with the saloon seating opposite the galley. Galley aft seems to be all the rage at the moment, and others are doing it better by having the saloon seating forward IMHO.
 
MapisM said:
Actually, it seems to me that there is a (narrow) transom gate also on stbd side.
At a guess, for easier handling of bow lines in Med mooring - which makes sense.
But restricting the direct access to stbd walkaround from the cockpit (as it appears from the drawing) is a very odd idea indeed, as Deleted User pointed out.
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Apart from the cockpit design which I think is just plain stupid, for me this saloon layout with aft galley and dinette opposite + additional seating forward is perfect for the Med. I will be interested to see how they've done that because shoehorning a galley opposite a dinette in a 53 footer is a tight squeeze. They've also covered all the bases down below and IMHO the 4 cabin version with the galley up saloon is going to be a real winner providing the cabins don't feel too squeezed. If this boat looks as good in the flesh as it looks on paper and providing its priced competitively it will sell very well. Lets hope Fairline are back
 
Some thing that potentially clouds the acceptance of the rear layout -is Med stern to berthing - -
Cruising as a couple the wife normally has a roving fender ,a big ball fender to drop over the which ever side needs it .
So the ability to switch from port to Stb rear 1/4 quickly is important , without going on the B platform .
There's usually a tender + paddleboard on the B platform and of course the main worry is falling in from a jolt especially when going in reverse .
For that reason and keeping mate insight it quite important the Stb access .
Having said that ---
But looking at the renderings in the Med with bare feet as long as the back rest is not too high then it will have to do .
No deal breaker ,but it might be a compromise that the said "mate " along with other issues -kills the deal ?

Anything like a recent poured iced drink left on the table --is in the fender firing line as she moves holding on to something ? From Stb to port !

But for us the rear sun pad as said is too small and in the shade .
 
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Prices start at £733,200 excluding VAT.

To be honest, I think people will just climb over the sun pad / seating to get to the s/b side deck from the cockpit. The gain of course is less wasted space than you would have with two transom doors to the cockpit (which means you get a bigger cockpit table - less requirement for directors chairs), a sun pad and maybe some headroom improvements in the crew cabin?
 
petem said:
To be honest, I think people will just climb over the sun pad / seating to get to the s/b side deck from the cockpit.
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Yes or no, it can work with a sport cruiser but I think less in a flybridge boat.
Also I have to disagree with you. Free space is never wasted. Like for example the way Ferretti do. Sqm per sqm you always feel they are giving you more.
Still I think from a design perspective this can be an easy fix. especially if the starboard side of the L-shaped settee is removable and not a fixed mold.
 
It does seem perhaps a little at odds with the rest of the boat in that they give you 3 options for the cabin, 3 for the main deck and even 2 for the flybridge but for the cockpit they make you have just the standard.

Perhaps FL could offer a more conventional cockpit layout for a boat of this size and still let buyers have more choice.
Especially as PYB says, if the seating is not molded to the superstructure
 
petem said:
maybe some headroom improvements in the crew cabin?
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I don't think so. According to the lower deck plan, the crew cabin doesn't extend under the stbd side of the cockpit - and rightly so: that would make stbd engine access a nightmare.
Naah, I'm afraid Deleted User already nailed the only proper way to qualify the cockpit design. :ambivalence:
It's not like IT designers never do any stupid mistakes, you know...
...though it seems very easy to fix this one, luckily for FL! :encouragement:
 
There looks to be a lot of beds and seating in proportion to the facilities for cooking. If there are eight plus crew aboard, they are going to struggle to feed themselves from a two burner hob, plus a single microwave combi-oven unless they like pizza - and who doesn't? But, having eaten their pizzas, the guests will congratulate themselves on their choice of cuisine because they only have a single sink and no dishwasher to wash up.

Plenty to like but the galley looks underspecified for when the boat is full.
 
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benjenbav said:
There looks to be a lot of beds and seating in proportion to the facilities for cooking. If there are eight plus crew aboard, they are going to struggle to feed themselves from a two burner hob, plus a single microwave combi-oven unless they like pizza - and who doesn't? But, having eaten their pizzas, the guests will congratulate themselves on their choice of cuisine because they only have a single sink and no dishwasher to wash up.

Plenty to like but the galley looks underspecified for when the boat is full.
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If I were buying one (sadly not likely) I think I'd have a three cabin version with a utility and day heads. I'd also find some way of making the bunk cabin an office with occasional berths.
 
benjenbav said:
There looks to be a lot of beds and seating in proportion to the facilities for cooking. If there are eight plus crew aboard, they are going to struggle to feed themselves from a two burner hob, plus a single microwave combi-oven unless they like pizza - and who doesn't? But, having eaten their pizzas, the guests will congratulate themselves on their choice of cuisine because they only have a single sink and no dishwasher to wash up.

Plenty to like but the galley looks underspecified for when the boat is full.
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And if you want one with two galleys (one up AND one down) I'm sure that can be arranged!
 
petem said:
If I were buying one (sadly not likely) I think I'd have a three cabin version with a utility and day heads. I'd also find some way of making the bunk cabin an office with occasional berths.
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Agreed. But I have to congratulate Fairline for the audacity to try and put four cabins in sixteen meters. It is indeed something unheard of sub 19 meters, and still difficult up to 20/21 meters.

I think there is a market for four cabin versions, in places like South Italy, Greece, and the Charter one all around the med.
Anyways Fairline will be alone in this and doing it at design stage did not cost them a thing.
 
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