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Whitelighter
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I never mentioned your ability to afford it or not.
I doubt many on here fall into the target market.
Nice to see you are still a cock erel
vas
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hm,
I like the pedestal and the table, am I too sad?
Med mooring would be an issue, would have to end up with a builders plank around 2m long 25cm wide and 4cm thick like many yachties do, difficult to store on board though
Pete no matter what you say, this boat is not really suitable for stern to mooring, fullstop.
cheers
V.
I like the pedestal and the table, am I too sad?
Med mooring would be an issue, would have to end up with a builders plank around 2m long 25cm wide and 4cm thick like many yachties do, difficult to store on board though
Pete no matter what you say, this boat is not really suitable for stern to mooring, fullstop.
cheers
V.
DazzyWoo
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petem
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You should have read the Targa 53 launch thread!
petem
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hm,
I like the pedestal and the table, am I too sad?
Med mooring would be an issue, would have to end up with a builders plank around 2m long 25cm wide and 4cm thick like many yachties do, difficult to store on board though
Pete no matter what you say, this boat is not really suitable for stern to mooring, fullstop.
cheers
V.
It's actually pretty rare for boats under 35ft to have a paserelle. The Princess R35 doesn't have one, nor does the new S/S Hawk 38, nor Axopars, Windy's, the new Jeanneau's & Beneteau's day boats, etc.
Incidentally, of the 4 T34's in our marina, only one has a paserelle, despite this being a factory option.
In my experience, people tend to fit steps on the quay, have a folding paserelle that they leave on the quay or simply clamber on and off.
It's no big deal.
PowerYachtBlog
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I think of the 1000 plus of 34 Zaffiro's have passarelle's (70/30) as do most Sessa 35 and Gobbi 345 SC. We have four 34 Targa's two have them two don't.
I do not need the hydraulic passarelle in my marina but when I go away from my shores it is really needed. I also use it to extend the bimini when on anchor.
vas
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Pete, I have to agree with PYB,
Furthermore, unless you are only ever moored on your own spot where you have what needs to be installed, I think it's a bit difficult.
FE, out of the 3-4 marinas I visit in the isles around here, the height of the dock from sea varies immensely, from 30cm to 1bloody m+
Tell me how you're going to get off your F33 in a 80cm dock, I'm all ears! I guess the teak on the folding thing is around 20-25cm from sealevel, you have a nice 55cm or in a 1m dock 75cm difference, that's not trivial, it's simply impossible.
Also the fact that the Brit boats leave the factory without a passerelle doesn't mean much, once down here, they get one
(or regret not doing it...)In most boats you have some options to mount the thing (even an nice carbon lightweight and sleek one), on a folding stern yacht or mobo, you're really buggered!
cheers
V.
jfm
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I quite like the boat but wouldn’t be interested in buying one. As a day boat or chase boat I’d prefer an Axopar style machine. I hope Fairline have established that there is a deep enough market for this sort of thing and its many similar competitors.
But I thought this was truly awful as a piece of marketing, especially marketing of a luxury toy. The venue was hideous with tyres as fenders, manky rope/chain on the dock bollards, dark cold water and some POS “party boat” moored on the dock for guests. The show boat itself had dirty fenders, yellow shore power cable laid on the seats, none of the cushions correctly fluffed up and karate chopped in the centre and a Tracy Emin bed. What were they thinking? If I arrived at my own boat and found it prepared like that I’d be pretty angry (but no fear; it would never happen). This was just the most awful piece of product presentation I’ve seen in a long while. I wish them well and hope the Cannes presentation is very much better.
Also it needs white caulking.
But I thought this was truly awful as a piece of marketing, especially marketing of a luxury toy. The venue was hideous with tyres as fenders, manky rope/chain on the dock bollards, dark cold water and some POS “party boat” moored on the dock for guests. The show boat itself had dirty fenders, yellow shore power cable laid on the seats, none of the cushions correctly fluffed up and karate chopped in the centre and a Tracy Emin bed. What were they thinking? If I arrived at my own boat and found it prepared like that I’d be pretty angry (but no fear; it would never happen). This was just the most awful piece of product presentation I’ve seen in a long while. I wish them well and hope the Cannes presentation is very much better.
Also it needs white caulking.
MapisM
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As a former Z34 owner, I suspect that the ratio you are quoting is for the factory option.
But many buyers deliberately decided to order the boat without it and have it retrofitted, also because they asked silly money for a mediocre Besenzoni thing, with the stanchions on the wrong side.
So, I would guess that probably 90 rather than 70 percent of Z34 in the Med have a passerelle, in reality.
A great boat anyway - probably the most successful model in Cranchi history.
I would still prefer one of them (with her 20 years old design!) rather than this F/line thing, let alone R35 or Hawk 38!
Then again, when I bought the Z34 I was actually thinking to go cruising with her, and I did.
Nowadays, this ilk of boats are mostly aimed at folks who want to show off, I suppose.
Time Out
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It’s a modern day Sunfury 26....
And I agree with the Mary Portas of the marine industry (JFM!) not the best location, too small for a Tower Bridge launch and too grey !
I do wonder if the recent change in senior management had anything to do with it..... Cannes would have been a better launch pad with fewer social media influencers from Essex
And I agree with the Mary Portas of the marine industry (JFM!) not the best location, too small for a Tower Bridge launch and too grey !
I do wonder if the recent change in senior management had anything to do with it..... Cannes would have been a better launch pad with fewer social media influencers from Essex
stelican
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Rest secure
stelican
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Yeah but isn't that slumming it
stelican
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Well said JFM so who is in charge at Fairline ,could take a guess
PowerYachtBlog
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Market has changed not little. In the 90s in Summer we used to have half a dozen Cranchi 32 Cruiser (the Zaffiro predecessor) coming in Malta around August time, most of them starting cruise in rather distance parts of Italy. That is without adding the other type of boats, which used to be cruising. I remember the amount of DC 10 and 11s cruising in Summer from Malta, some coming from Ravenna.
Something has broken in the med, and instead of being fixed it seems to be breaking even more.
People think that to cruise you need 30 meters nowadays, and for a crossing from A to B you need 20, and to go swimming a ten miles distance possibly needing 15 meters.
It is a perceived reality very common in West med and in some of the glamours locations. It is not the truth, but it is the outside perceptiveness from many and what the YT marketing machine kinda makes the average Joe believe it works that way.
Hi I am not saying bigger is not better, and more comfortable, but for many it seems the plot get's lost along the way.
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Er perhaps I’m losing my eyesight in my dotage but where are the handrails? Rather petem than me staggering forward with a bow line
jimmy_the_builder
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MapisM
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Yup W, I agree with all your considerations.
OTOH, it's not just a matter of young newcomers wealthy enough to start boating with crewed 80 footers.
Also for those of us, who began boating with whatever we could afford as long as it was enough to enjoy the sea (as opposed to buying an 80' just because you can), changes happen.
No matter how much and how fast you cruise, by boat you can travel only up to a point - and over time, that makes you wonder if it doesn't make more sense to leave your boat where you can use it as a platform with a fantastic sea just round the corner, rather than burning a lot of fuel to go nowhere.
In fact, on average I crunched much more miles each season when I had less time available, while nowadays the boat is for me mostly a floating home, with the added bonus of being able to move it to some nice bays nearby, whenever I want to.
Not that I don't want or like to go places anymore, mind.
It's actually the opposite, but no boat can compete with jetliners, in this respect.
It's just a shame that something even faster than jetliners doesn't exist (yet!)
PowerYachtBlog
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I think that where Sails take the award, upwards of ten meters you see raggies doing all kind of stuff.
The sailing cruiser or yacht market has been regularly healthy in between 9 to 15 meters. May be thanks to Beneteau / Jeanneau / Bavaria and the like.
Which are not really shining example of high quality, they are but an example of price ratio.
The sailing cruiser or yacht market has been regularly healthy in between 9 to 15 meters. May be thanks to Beneteau / Jeanneau / Bavaria and the like.
Which are not really shining example of high quality, they are but an example of price ratio.
MedDreamer
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Dunno who is in charge now but I did notice that Russell Currie the previous MD has switched his Mallorca dealership from Fairline to Princess! Hardly a ringing endorsement from someone in the know.