DazzyWoo
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Ta Da ...(courtesy of MBY)
Its obviously not the right boat for everyone, but that's one of the things I like about it. I think it's gorgeous.
There is only one F in F-Line
New Fairline F//LINE
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Ta Da ...(courtesy of MBY)
Its obviously not the right boat for everyone, but that's one of the things I like about it. I think it's gorgeous.
There is only one F in F-Line
PowerYachtBlog
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Porto this should do it for you. I see it as a master peace, just needs white cushions a grey silver stripe and it is purity of what a fast boat should be; sea worthy, fast and safe.
https://youtu.be/qV6D7CjwIe0
https://youtu.be/qV6D7CjwIe0
Portofino
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Ta Da ...(courtesy of MBY)
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Its obviously not the right boat for everyone, but that's one of the things I like about it. I think it's gorgeous.
There is only one F in F-Line
I give up - sometimes it feels like banging your head on a brick wall !!
Go away and google “ Med mooring “
When you’ve done that tell me the Med mooring boarding process.
Side doors are for jetty’s at the bottom of your Florida home .Add in the engine options with a token nod to the EU it’s blinding obvious the market they are after .
Portofino
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To the builders of the R35 , F 33 and Hawk 38 —— “ Forgive them Lord ,for they know not what they are doing “
petem
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Here's the bathing platform down...
Perfect for stepping into from a step fitted to the quay (as I have, as they have in Portals, San Antonio, etc).
PowerYachtBlog
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The F/Line reminds me of this.
Ilver Piper 33.
In 2002 Ilver led by Francesco Guida who was for a long time the right hand of Janetti at Sanlorenzo launched a three new innovative models the Piper, Scuba, and Vista; 33, 47 and 58 feet.
The Piper was a cool day boat ten meters long with shafts drives and a gigolo plushy interior, and a classy stern layout, with telescopic bathing platform later used on the SL62.
While I always thought this never worked on the SL62 I always though it worked well on the Piper, but it never worked.
Image with stern closed; http://www.rimessaggioippocampo.com/cms/immagini/279/big/3.JPG
Image with stern open: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/25/ac/cf25acae841ace1ff28d97712391dd63.jpg
Model was then renewed to the Piper 36 with full bathing platform in 2005. http://www.supervee.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/IMG_0568-1024x768.jpg
Ilver Piper 33.
In 2002 Ilver led by Francesco Guida who was for a long time the right hand of Janetti at Sanlorenzo launched a three new innovative models the Piper, Scuba, and Vista; 33, 47 and 58 feet.
The Piper was a cool day boat ten meters long with shafts drives and a gigolo plushy interior, and a classy stern layout, with telescopic bathing platform later used on the SL62.
While I always thought this never worked on the SL62 I always though it worked well on the Piper, but it never worked.
Image with stern closed; http://www.rimessaggioippocampo.com/cms/immagini/279/big/3.JPG
Image with stern open: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/25/ac/cf25acae841ace1ff28d97712391dd63.jpg
Model was then renewed to the Piper 36 with full bathing platform in 2005. http://www.supervee.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/IMG_0568-1024x768.jpg
Greg2
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Whilst pleased to see a smaller boat launched by one of our main builders I am afraid that the comments about it being beautiful just don’t resonate (I guess it is an ‘eye of the beholder’ thing) and as for the price,,,,,sheeeesh!
MrB
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I concur:ambivalence:
Portofino
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Pete using PYB ,s pic
Does this make sense with my point of “ rotating “ transoms .The same thing happens with the SL 62 , although nobody leaves that open as obviously being a 62 it got a passerelle.
The blue hatched is the bit that gets wet and referred to earlier re “ antifoul “ if it’s permanently lest open .
It’s L shaped and as it rotating to expose the inner surface which is teak linked the bottom of the transom enters the water .
You can’t ( or will be mad ) to leave the boat with it open .
And remember my other point about the position of the stern on a Med mooring berth - boat sticking out to provide room for it to open = kinda obviates the less than 10 M berth alleged plus point .
That less than 10 M “ advantage “ works for a boat house or hoist at the bottom of your garden , I’ll give it that .
Aside a 3.56 M beam means it’s very wide for its L = interesting ride at speed with theses yank petrols .
That beam pushes it into a 12 + m Med mooring which I guess is ample room to arrive and phaff opening up the stern to get on .
Then what if port bound ( ie not going out ) and folks hopping on / off every 5 mins - going for No 2 ,s etc - does this mean it stays open all the time in the marina ? Close it and the bit dipped in is covered in marina slim .
The SL 62 and others btw with folding transoms don’t open there’s in port btw .
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Does this make sense with my point of “ rotating “ transoms .The same thing happens with the SL 62 , although nobody leaves that open as obviously being a 62 it got a passerelle.
The blue hatched is the bit that gets wet and referred to earlier re “ antifoul “ if it’s permanently lest open .
It’s L shaped and as it rotating to expose the inner surface which is teak linked the bottom of the transom enters the water .
You can’t ( or will be mad ) to leave the boat with it open .
And remember my other point about the position of the stern on a Med mooring berth - boat sticking out to provide room for it to open = kinda obviates the less than 10 M berth alleged plus point .
That less than 10 M “ advantage “ works for a boat house or hoist at the bottom of your garden , I’ll give it that .
Aside a 3.56 M beam means it’s very wide for its L = interesting ride at speed with theses yank petrols .
That beam pushes it into a 12 + m Med mooring which I guess is ample room to arrive and phaff opening up the stern to get on .
Then what if port bound ( ie not going out ) and folks hopping on / off every 5 mins - going for No 2 ,s etc
- does this mean it stays open all the time in the marina ? Close it and the bit dipped in is covered in marina slim .The SL 62 and others btw with folding transoms don’t open there’s in port btw .
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AllanG
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Exactly my thoughts....just a WAY overpriced sports boat....nothing special IMHO.
Bigplumbs
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I think it is rather ugly too.... Far to modern looking for me and so much to go wrong
petem
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Porto, it doesn't look submerged when open to me. And there's nothing to stop it being controlled remotely (app on phone?) if not already.
Anyhow, despite all the shortcomings that you think it has, it'll still outsell Itamas 20 to 1!
Anyhow, despite all the shortcomings that you think it has, it'll still outsell Itamas 20 to 1!
Elessar
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That’s not the least bit surprising, let’s face it. If we want a really good “compromised boat” thread ......,.
Elessar
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I have to say I think it looks good. The window line is fairline the rest is very new/fresh. A folding platform is a great idea, or sliding for that matter. Paying for a bathing platform to park seems silly.
The only thing that spoils it is the anchor. It uses up length and looks fugly. That should have been hidden away IMO.
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petem
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I find that there's nothing like a protruding anchor to focus the minds of fellow boaters to keep away from you!
julians
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I'll reserve my final judgement on it until I've seen it in real life, but i think I'm leaning toward it not being my kind of boat (not that I could afford one anyway even if it was).
The bathing platform is a problem for me, I'd rather just have a fixed one. I can see all sorts of issues arising with that fold out one, not least how much of a ballache it will be to use on a stern to mooring, even if it were operated by a remote control.
I'm not sure I like the styling (but that a purely subjective thing). It looks a bit fat to me. But the below decks accommodation does look good.
If you can't have any kind of sun shade unless you opt for the t top version, then that's a significant problem, although I can't believe that they won't have some kind of bimini as an option.
The limited diesel engine choice is a big issue.
The fuel tanks look a bit small for the size of boat, more so if you go for any of thr petrol engines.
It's only rcd cat c, I know this rating is not the be and and end all of sea keeping, but I'm surprised it's not a b.
Anyway, I'm in no position to buy one, so who cares what I think?
The bathing platform is a problem for me, I'd rather just have a fixed one. I can see all sorts of issues arising with that fold out one, not least how much of a ballache it will be to use on a stern to mooring, even if it were operated by a remote control.
I'm not sure I like the styling (but that a purely subjective thing). It looks a bit fat to me. But the below decks accommodation does look good.
If you can't have any kind of sun shade unless you opt for the t top version, then that's a significant problem, although I can't believe that they won't have some kind of bimini as an option.
The limited diesel engine choice is a big issue.
The fuel tanks look a bit small for the size of boat, more so if you go for any of thr petrol engines.
It's only rcd cat c, I know this rating is not the be and and end all of sea keeping, but I'm surprised it's not a b.
Anyway, I'm in no position to buy one, so who cares what I think?
petem
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It's actually 3.50m according to the spec which makes it only 5cm wider than my boat of virtually the same hull length.
petem
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It is curious.
To be honest, I'd be more interested in a smaller sibling as a future villa (apartment) boat for me, which I'd hope would have the option of a single inboard and/or outboard(s).
PowerYachtBlog
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And a Sea Ray of 35 feet will outsell a Fairline one hundred to one. Is not this a stupid argument???
Itama was a small builder in Amati's days, and currently nothing is being done by Ferretti Group about the brand.
In Amati days Itama was making just over twenty boats a year all to discerning owners, all made to order. No speculation build even for the small 38 which sold in a long production run lasting twenty years about 160 units. Also all Itama's where sold direct up until the mid nineties. Amati had to like you to build you and sell you a boat.
In the Ferretti Group days it made over forty for a couple of years which was the good times of the Forty and Fifty Five selling very well.
Btw the itama Forty still outsold the Fairline Targa 44 by two to one selling over 100 units in a same five year production run and more or less a similar time frame, even though it costed double the price.
How much did the 44 sell, I heard about fifty units despite making it 100k cheaper in around 2010 with the stern drive version.
The small Itama 45 costs 900k plus Vat and has Cummins 550hp engines with shafts. I think you are really speaking another kind of craft.
I hope the Fairline will at least outsell the Pardo 43 which is of a similar style, and already sold one hundred units in less then a two year stint.
What a stupid argument....
petem
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Not as stupid as Porto's insinuation that the thing won't sell in the Med because of that stern arrangement!