Viking
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It seems that the proposed Boat Tax as NOT yet been approved by the Greek Government. It is still under consideration by the Greek Government. and long may it be so!
New Boat Greek Boat Tax - 1st Jan 2014 NOT YET LAW!
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Appleyard
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Sounds promising,where did you glean this news?
jimbaerselman
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The law was in force. It had been gazetted.
We quote the latest information we have at http://www.cruising.org.uk/news/greektax . If you have further information, with a source, we'd be most grateful. We know that its implementation and timing is under discussion, since The Cruising Association (CA) is part of that discussion. But that does not suspend the law.
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Appleyard
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Thanks Jim.
The line. "(until) agents appointed to collect this tax have been trained". Brought a smile .
It could only happen in Greece
The line. "(until) agents appointed to collect this tax have been trained". Brought a smile .
It could only happen in Greece
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Carmel2
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Gosh!!
sailaboutvic
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If this is the case ,here the chance for those who was planning to leave Greece , other people who don't want to pay the tax and having a longer 2014 sailing season at the same time .
There some great sailing to be done in Feb and March .
There some great sailing to be done in Feb and March .
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Tony Cross
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Source?
Appleyard
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Ditto.
Chris_Robb
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It think it read "(until) agents appointed to collect this tax " - Whats this training bit?
Appleyard
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This is the paragraph I was quoting from.. it definitely says " have been trained" But as you say... what's this training bit?
"A tax on leisure boats over 7m LOA afloat in Greek waters after 1 Jan 2014 has been introduced. It will not be collected until a new on-line tax collection sytems - "TAXIS" - is in operation, and agents appointed to collect this tax have been trained. This is unlikely to occur before the end of February."
"A tax on leisure boats over 7m LOA afloat in Greek waters after 1 Jan 2014 has been introduced. It will not be collected until a new on-line tax collection sytems - "TAXIS" - is in operation, and agents appointed to collect this tax have been trained. This is unlikely to occur before the end of February."
Viking
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One of OCC's local Port Officer. He phone the local Coast Guard office to pay the 'Tax' and the CG informed him of the situation!
Tony Cross
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It's nonsense then. If you read the Cruising Association's verified pages at http://www.cruising.org.uk/node/22634 you'll see that the CA has been told (by the Ministry responsible) that "It [the tax] will not be collected until a new on-line tax collection system - "TAXIS" - is in operation, and agents appointed to collect this tax have been trained. This is unlikely to occur before the end of February.". This is why the port police, coastguard, marinas, fishermen, taverna owners, and the bloke who knows everything on pontoon G, have not heard anything about this tax. They won't until the TAXIS system is running and until agents to collect the tax have been appointed. The information on the CA site comes from consultations between the CA (and other national sailing associations) and the relevant ministry officials. Nothing is posted on there until and unless it's been verified and is known to be accurate.
macd
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+1
That would also be my reading.
Equally, unless the conversation was between fluent Greek speakers, I'd imagine it difficult to distinguish between "approved by the Greek Government" and "implemented by the Greek Goverment", in which case the original post adds nothing to what we already know.
That would also be my reading.
Equally, unless the conversation was between fluent Greek speakers, I'd imagine it difficult to distinguish between "approved by the Greek Government" and "implemented by the Greek Goverment", in which case the original post adds nothing to what we already know.
Appleyard
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It sounds like a bloody job creation scheme.
Steve C Cronin
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Which of course is fine since most of us milch cows, whom our delightful hosts claim are NOT the target of this state organised protection racket, don't get back to Greece till May. All of my Greek friends are so embarrassed at their government's failure to exclude foreign owned boats from this revenue recovery exercise.
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sailaboutvic
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What I can,t seen to get my head around is why the people who planning to leave Greece and the ones who don't want to pay this tax aren't moving there boats before this tax can be collected , I know I would be .
Althought some would say it too early in year , I would say pick your weather just as you would do any other time of the year .
It funny how quite a lot of people seen to think the sailing season start on the first of April and ends in Oct .
If you ask 10 people wintered out in marina when they plan to leave , 9 would look at the date on their marina contact .
Althought some would say it too early in year , I would say pick your weather just as you would do any other time of the year .
It funny how quite a lot of people seen to think the sailing season start on the first of April and ends in Oct .
If you ask 10 people wintered out in marina when they plan to leave , 9 would look at the date on their marina contact .
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charles_reed
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What protection?
I'm going back late, this year, 27th April.
Most of my Greek friends are sympathetic but say "now you know how we feel".
Neither the Greeks, nor their visitors, have been paying sufficient to support their government apparatus. Arguably their Government apparatus has been allowed to grow too large and expensive and is still too large and expensive. Just like the UK, Italy, France (and probably) the USA. Perhaps the Tea Party have a point and it's time for "thin" government.
Certainly one can see the Commission being as beleaguered after the next Strasbourg election as was Louis by the Estates General in 1789.
Instead of bad harvests we have bad GDP growth, instead of the Seven Years War we have "too big to fail" banks. Instead of overweening clergy we have overpaid civil service clerks. Perhaps Madame la Guillotine will be seen in the streets of Europe?
Steve really must learn to control his natural Anglo-Saxon passion.
Tony Cross
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That's pretty much the reaction from the locals here too.
ostra4
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I'm sat in a yard right now in Just outside Nidri looking at a large number of yachts that cannot leave now even if they would like to , the yard has all the boats supported on drums and props and the. Later in the year you wish to launch your boat the further away from the sea you will be,the. Only folk leaving here are those along the beach.Im sure this is reflected in a lot of yards across Greece.Personally I will pay the tax if I have to but won't be volunteering or asking where to pay anytime soon. Looking at the forecast for the ionian for the next few days Im rather glad to be tucked up in yard!
BurnitBlue
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I was wondering about that last year when I looked around Marie's Yard near Nidri. It cannot expand because of the church beside it and the main road behind it. Therefore boats are squashed in like sardines in a tin. It appeared that first one hauled had to be the last one launched. Sledge slipway for all boats.
