New boat dissapointment

ouch thats not a good situation.

Although personally ive not had to deal with the expense, my parents who bought into a motorboat with grand ideas also got caught up in unforseen expense/breakages.

it put them right off because 'everything kept breaking' I took on a role of sorting out such issues, and quickly found from this forum its part of the whole owning a boat and also a wealth of knowledge to fix the smaller items yourself. maybe not to the extremes of your situation but i could only suggest - dont let it put you off, hurdles make the end result all the more sweeter.

Hope you have this resolved in good time for the summer months
 
The engineer says there was rust so I would have thought this suggests a leak somewhere? Hence why I presume it's just wear and tear?
 
Carianne said:
The engineer says there was rust so I would have thought this suggests a leak somewhere? Hence why I presume it's just wear and tear?
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There lies your answer, the survey/samples were not telling the truth?

Do you have the survey report in writing? if so present that to your insurers and the broker who were it me would not trust as far as I could throw them.
 
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We did come into this expecting it to be something that takes a lot of time care and maintenance,just didn't expect it on our first outing. Oh well onwards and upwards! It will be sorted before the nicer weather:-)
 
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The engineer says there was rust so I would have thought this suggests a leak somewhere? Hence why I presume it's just wear and tear?
There lies your answer, the survey/samples were not telling the truth?

I can't imagine anyone would ever win that argument... The survey is worded in such a way I wouldn't imagine there is any comeback.... In my opinion..... At the time of....... Etc
 
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The engineer says there was rust so I would have thought this suggests a leak somewhere? Hence why I presume it's just wear and tear?
There lies your answer, the survey/samples were not telling the truth?

I can't imagine anyone would ever win that argument... The survey is worded in such a way I wouldn't imagine there is any comeback.... In my opinion..... At the time of....... Etc
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That is what you buy insurance for, let them sort it. Do not be fobbed off by so called experts, they try to blind us with science but your insurers will have better scientist that him.
 
imagine a drive shaft failing the first time you takeout an expensive car (whichdoesn't have a survey, does it?).

The vendor would be liable as the product is not fit for purpose.


Have a word with Trading Standards. The fact that it's a "luxury yot" makes no difference.



I reckon the vendor/surveyor pays for one UJ, and you pay for the second one as a precaution.
 
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imagine a drive shaft failing the first time you takeout an expensive car (whichdoesn't have a survey, does it?).

The vendor would be liable as the product is not fit for purpose.


Have a word with Trading Standards. The fact that it's a "luxury yot" makes no difference.



I reckon the vendor/surveyor pays for one UJ, and you pay for the second one as a precaution.
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+1 The surveyor should have been acting on your behalf not the sellers, as you had instructed him and paid his fee? He will be insured against BAD information given, get after him through your insurance co.
 
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Personally I think your best glimmer of hope is that repairs are not too expensive and can be expedited before the season. If it's a 3k bill as Whitelighter's was, it's moot as to whether this is worth a claim or a fight over a claim. Although not obliged and given caveat emptor, the PO might meet you part way if of the decent sort and you dealt fairly and in good terms.
 
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Personally I think your best glimmer of hope is that repairs are not too expensive and can be expedited before the season. If it's a 3k bill as Whitelighter's was, it's moot as to whether this is worth a claim or a fight over a claim. Although not obliged and given caveat emptor, the PO might meet you part way if of the decent sort and you dealt fairly and in good terms.
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Just lie down and take it!! NO WAY!!!!!
 
Have you spoken to the seller? These things never "just happen out of the blue". Was that the reason for selling the boat? If the seller is genuine then they will want to help with the costs. If not, then there is your answer. Even boat owners can be *rse-holes!
 
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Have you spoken to the seller? These things never "just happen out of the blue". Was that the reason for selling the boat? If the seller is genuine then they will want to help with the costs. If not, then there is your answer. Even boat owners can be *rse-holes!
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I would doubt that 'if they were genuine, they will want to help with the costs', I certainly wouldnt. As a private seller you offer no warranty, if you do offer a warranty, which is what you are implying the seller of this boat should do, where do you draw the line?

The op could try the insurance route, its probably not a big hassle to do that, but if that fails, then they're just going to have to suck it up. I know this sounds harsh (as £3k is not an insignificant sum of money), but in the grand scheme of boating costs, its not a huge sum of money (as long as its not £3k every other week).


For what its worth, the inner propshaft on my duoprop DPH outdrive sheared off a couple of years ago, taking the rearmost prop to the bottom of the sea with it. There was no prior warning, and nothing I could have done to prevent it. I dont know what caused it, could've been from hitting something in the water, could've just been a random failure. The repairs costs just over £4k, I claimed on the insurance and they paid up without question.
 
I'm pretty much resigned to just getting it done and putting it down to the joys of being a boat owner! Parts come in at 3300 plus labour:-( let's hope it's a good summer!!:-)
 
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Have you spoken to the seller? These things never "just happen out of the blue". Was that the reason for selling the boat? If the seller is genuine then they will want to help with the costs. If not, then there is your answer. Even boat owners can be *rse-holes!
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I wonder if the boat not having been used over the winter and / or whilst for sale has contributed to the failure. Perhaps the previous owner only ever pootled around. It's perfectly possible that the previous owner had no knowledge of this issue so would be perfectly within his rights to deny all responsibility. Sorry, but somethimes these things just happen and the best course of action is to get the boat repaired as quickly and cheaply as possible.
 
The whole reason you pay less for second hand goods is because there is potentially a cost to replacing worn out parts, that is why there is no warranty or guarantee. The risk is reflected in the purchase price.
 
I doubt the surveyor would have looked inside the Bell housing or bellows?? So the oil would have come back as OK.. Wear n tear surely?? Just one of those things.
 
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I would doubt that 'if they were genuine, they will want to help with the costs', I certainly wouldnt. As a private seller you offer no warranty, if you do offer a warranty, which is what you are implying the seller of this boat should do, where do you draw the line?

The op could try the insurance route, its probably not a big hassle to do that, but if that fails, then they're just going to have to suck it up. I know this sounds harsh (as £3k is not an insignificant sum of money), but in the grand scheme of boating costs, its not a huge sum of money (as long as its not £3k every other week).


For what its worth, the inner propshaft on my duoprop DPH outdrive sheared off a couple of years ago, taking the rearmost prop to the bottom of the sea with it. There was no prior warning, and nothing I could have done to prevent it. I dont know what caused it, could've been from hitting something in the water, could've just been a random failure. The repairs costs just over £4k, I claimed on the insurance and they paid up without question.
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+1 If you don't ask you don't get
 
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