Neighbouring boat etiquette

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Danfarry

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Just wondering what the general opinion is for this totally hypothetical situation :nonchalance:

Just say you were to move to a new berth and the boat next to you, on the prevailing wind side, was moored badly. In badly, totally hypothetical still, I mean miles from the pontoon on tiny frayed warps which look like they could give way any minute.

Hypothetically I could inform the marina staff, speak to the owner if I ever see him or just tie it up better myself with the existing lines and some offcuts I have lying around.

Your hypothetical assistance would be appreciated..
 
Danfarry said:
Just wondering what the general opinion is for this totally hypothetical situation :nonchalance:

Just say you were to move to a new berth and the boat next to you, on the prevailing wind side, was moored badly. In badly, totally hypothetical still, I mean miles from the pontoon on tiny frayed warps which look like they could give way any minute.

Hypothetically I could inform the marina staff, speak to the owner if I ever see him or just tie it up better myself with the existing lines and some offcuts I have lying around.

Your hypothetical assistance would be appreciated..
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Speak to the marina, and get them to secure it. If you touch it, and something causes damage, you will be responsible....hypothetically, of course!
 
Danfarry said:
Just wondering what the general opinion is for this totally hypothetical situation :nonchalance:

Just say you were to move to a new berth and the boat next to you, on the prevailing wind side, was moored badly. In badly, totally hypothetical still, I mean miles from the pontoon on tiny frayed warps which look like they could give way any minute.

Hypothetically I could inform the marina staff, speak to the owner if I ever see him or just tie it up better myself with the existing lines and some offcuts I have lying around.

Your hypothetical assistance would be appreciated..
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I am sure that the correct thing to do in a marina is to inform the marina manager. Be sure he understands your concerns. Put it in writing if you feel you are likely to be ignored.

An owner who hypothetically moors his boat in the way you describe is unlikely to give a toss about yours or take the slightest notice of any direct approaches. All more likely to end in hypothetical fistycuffs I would think.
 
Defiantly speak to the marina staff.

It is unlikely that you would secure this other boat any worse than the owner has, in fact the opposite is more likely as you are protecting your own boat.

I have in the past re secured lines of boats sharing my berth for fear of damage to my own boat, this has been followed up by a comment to the owner when I next saw them.
 
Big WoW is lonely out there and bemoans that his leg is too short - hypothetically speaking. His lines now extend in a most unneighbourly way right across to the next adjoining leg. I'm sure he'd be delighted if you rafted up to him and absolved him of this embarrasment. Or of course Seastoke would be delighted to be rid of a certain light Fairline billboard that haunts his dreaming thoughts. Perhaps a place trade? I'd invite you to join me on my pontoon. But as I'm paying less than a sixth of what you do per meter, should word ever get out, the harbour master may get greedy so you can f right off. See you on the water :D
 
I would inform the marina staff and ask if they were going to retie it.
If they were not willing to, then I would add some proper lines alongside the existing ones, at least that way if it were to break free you couldn't be blamed for having untied the existing lines.

I have added extra lines to secure boats that were badly tied in the past and hope others would do the same for me.
 
James L said:
I would inform the marina staff and ask if they were going to retie it.
If they were not willing to, then I would add some proper lines alongside the existing ones, at least that way if it were to break free you couldn't be blamed for having untied the existing lines.

I have added extra lines to secure boats that were badly tied in the past and hope others would do the same for me.
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The neighbouring boat to us is very badly tied up with rotting ropes. We have informed the marina staff, who in turn have informed the owned but he doesn't seem interested.

I wont be happy if any damage is caused to our boat through his neglect but at the same time why should we be responsible for ensuring that his boat is secure. He is well aware of the matter and just isnt interested.

We have seen this chap perhaps three, four times in the last seven years. Each time shortly after the marina have threatened to kick him out if he doesnt clean up his boat, which is usually green with filth. His answer to this is, and I kid you not, to paint it with white gloss paint!
 
prv said:
Surely you would be ensuring that your boat is safe?

Pete
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If we redo his ropes, who is responsible if they do break and his boat damages ours?

If we don't touch his boat it, is his responsibility to ensure it is safe.

I would rather his boat didn't pay ours a visit on our berth, but if it does, they are both insured (as a condition of having a berth in the marina) so any damage would be covered.
 
CX54WEK said:
If we don't touch his boat it, is his responsibility to ensure it is safe.
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Sure, but you still end up with a damaged boat.

Whereas if you add some additional lines to secure his boat properly, there is no damage and the whole question is moot. Personally I prefer going sailing in my undamaged boat to wrangling with insurance companies and an uncooperative neighbour while my boat is out of the water being repaired, but each to his own. I guess I prefer the real world of metal and fibreglass, rope and wind, rather than the world of paper theory.

Pete
 
prv said:
Sure, but you still end up with a damaged boat.

Whereas if you add some additional lines to secure his boat properly, there is no damage and the whole question is moot. Personally I prefer going sailing in my undamaged boat to wrangling with insurance companies and an uncooperative neighbour while my boat is out of the water being repaired, but each to his own. I guess I prefer the real world of metal and fibreglass, rope and wind, rather than the world of paper theory.

Pete
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So do we which is why we don't overly worry ourselves about it.
 
BruceK said:
Big WoW is lonely out there and bemoans that his leg is too short - hypothetically speaking. His lines now extend in a most unneighbourly way right across to the next adjoining leg. I'm sure he'd be delighted if you rafted up to him and absolved him of this embarrasment. Or of course Seastoke would be delighted to be rid of a certain light Fairline billboard that haunts his dreaming thoughts. Perhaps a place trade? I'd invite you to join me on my pontoon. But as I'm paying less than a sixth of what you do per meter, should word ever get out, the harbour master may get greedy so you can f right off. See you on the water :D
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"Embarrassment?" How else is one supposed to stop jet skies and ski boats mooring alongside?
I take it Phil hasn't removed my lawn and turned me around to be alongside the main pontoon yet then?
 
I cant be sure. The water taxi refused to pick me up off the fueling pontoon last week. Made me lug all my junk to the waiting pontoon and get my new brogues wet and manky. Can't get the service these days.
 
TQA said:
Take dated photographs of the offending lines and document your report to the marina.

Copy everything to the MD if you can find his address.

Be a squeaky wheel.
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Only if you want to be a pain in the arse, The marina in question does not have an adversarial relationship with it's boat owners, and "if asked will sort":encouragement:
 
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