needed insurance for ferro cement yacht

[lilianroyle]

do you know a broker who can sort out insurance for a ferro yacht including wreck removal. The boat is professional hull with amateur fit out. Many thanks

 

[Gaffer]

Try :-
D R L Marine Services 01692 670 190
Let me know how you get on with them.....

 

[alant]

Amateur hull builds apart, why do Ferro boats get such a bad press. Back in the 60's, they were the new thing.
Prices are relatively low, so why are they considered a risky buy?

 

[Gaffer]

Just a guess, but it could be something to do with the way the insurance industry views the floating properties of concrete. We all know that other boat building materials, for example steel, are equally bouyant, or not, but from what I have seen the insurance industry is very set in it's ways.

 

[Trevethan]

Because a few years a number of ferro boats mysteriously sank while their owners were trying to sell them. No one was willing to pay what was asked. Strange eh? Personally I am a big fan of ferro, owning a 44ft ferro ketch. Its easy to maintain, looks pretty good when finished properly and none of those osmosis galvanic action type headaches steel and grp boat owners can have.

However a lot of steel and grp owners look down on it as a building material as do some surveyors.

A lot of them say ooohhhh its so heavy, but a 44ft steel boat that displaces 15 tonnes weighs the same a 44 foot ferro boat displacing 15 tonnes.

regards,

Nick

 

[lilianroyle]

Dear Gaffer,
many thanks for your suggestion. They were both helpful and ultimately came up with goods; fully comprehensive for a premium of 3% of the insured value. This came after an offer from Everards of third party only for £4000 pa and various other 3rd party only with no extras(ie the wreck removal clause that some marinas require) once again many thanks
pete

 

[arriviste]

I once had a 72' ferro staysail schooner that was professionally built by Derek Williams, and professionally fitted out too. In the early 1990s I was able to insure her comprehensively, but after the millennium it became impossible to insure, even for 3rd party liability! I found insurers to be very timid creatures,.

 

[AntarcticPilot]

The problem with ferrocement boats is that while good ones are very good, bad ones are awful! And a vast number were home built by people who thought it was a way to get a cheap boat, and who skimped on things like the right cement mix, getting a plasterer to finish the hull, and who then discovered that the cost of the hull was about a third (or less) than the cost of the finished boat.

A well built ferro boat is a good boat. But the quality of the build is very difficult to assess. So it's not really surprising that insurers view them with little enthusiasm.

 

[Wansworth]

Because a few years a number of ferro boats mysteriously sank while their owners were trying to sell them. No one was willing to pay what was asked. Strange eh? Personally I am a big fan of ferro, owning a 44ft ferro ketch. Its easy to maintain, looks pretty good when finished properly and none of those osmosis galvanic action type headaches steel and grp boat owners can have.

However a lot of steel and grp owners look down on it as a building material as do some surveyors.

A lot of them say ooohhhh its so heavy, but a 44ft steel boat that displaces 15 tonnes weighs the same a 44 foot ferro boat displacing 15 tonnes.

regards,

Nick

Your pulling my leg ?

 

[Boater Sam]

I had to cut up and dispose of a failed home built one years ago. It was a task.

 

[Hoolie]

Is this a record? A thread revived after more than 20 years!

 

[Wansworth]

Is this a record? A thread revived after more than 20 years!

Oh ….my comment won’t be misinterpreted by trevithan?

 

[Hoolie]

Since he was last seen on 16 Jan 2009 I doubt that is very likely ...

 

[Wansworth]

Since he was last seen on 16 Jan 2009 I doubt that is very likely ...

Thank god

 

[Rappey]

Many many years after the trend of building ferro boats , the "dogs" are either sunk or rotting away in a field or boatyard.
The ones still afloat today were built properly and are hard to distinguish from grp .
Years ago a highly qualified guy at Warsash nautical college wrote an article where he stated a ferro hull if properly built is the best material for a boat hull as it can outlast all others with no maintenance other than paint to make it look pretty.
There are certainly thousands of ill informed armchair experts for every single ferro boat.
Insurers generally don't like them because so many poorly built ones appeared around the 80s and 90s ,tarnishing the reputation.

 

[Bilgediver]

I had to cut up and dispose of a failed home built one years ago. It was a task.

One has recently been cut up at our marina in Scotland. I believe some components are being used on a newish Bruce Roberts type that is being completed.

 

[Neeves]

Is this a record? A thread revived after more than 20 years!

I'd like to think everyone seeking knowledge would use the YBW search function prior to posting a new thread.

Hope springs eternal

This must be something of a record - but not to be criticised nor ridiculed - its does prove some use the search function. They should be commended.

Jonathan