Nazi Goering's Glamour Yacht "CARIN II" Found Lying in Red Sea

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Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who shall we?
After all it's just a boat that just so happened to belong to some senior nazi official. Nothing to get excited about.
 
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As usual Crusty you cannot accept other points of view in an acceptable way. You have to make a personal point toward the poster in nearly every post you make just because they have a different point of view. This is offensive and not in the true spirit of a forum such as this. If you want to drive people away carry on as you are now .

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Ach so! Ze Riechforum Politzie haf arrived, Got in Himmel!

That wasn't personal abuse you wee appendige, this is personal abuse!............

Awah an' bile ye heed! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

On a scale of one to ten even that ranks pretty low, about a three I reckon /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I take your point about CARIN II being a Nazi symbol but the one thing no-one has brought up on this thread is ....(and this will put the cat amongst the pigeons)...she was deemed good enough for the British Royal Family to swan around in for 15 years. "...in 1945 became part of the Royal Navy - renamed the "Royal Albert" - the flagship of the British fleet of the Rhine. In 1952 the boat was renamed "Prince Charles". She steamed from Krefeld for the state visit to Switzerland in 1955 and was even command ship of the British at the first joint NATO maneuvers "Cordon Bleu". Then came Adenauer to the evening reception on Göring's yacht. Regularly, she was used by the Royal Family. The former chef recalls that the Royals used to fly to Frankfurt and then drive by Rolls-Royce to Wiesbaden-Schierstein where they could go by boat up the Rhine to Heidelberg or down to Holland. Prince Charles, as a boy, was kept busy peeling potatoes." - a lousy Babelfish translation but the gist is there. But there you have it - with the bodies of millions of people barely cold, as it were, the British Royals were larking around in Hermann Görings boat. I suppose she'll always be known as "Hermann Görings boat" and not even a name change will do much for that. And to compound things even more, Gerd Heidemann (Hitler Diaries guy) and Görings daughter Edda are both blatant Neo-Nazis. So the stigma is there. But the Fat One owned her for 8 years out of her 71.
BTW the vessel was built in the Herman Heidtmann shipyards and they were turning out some nice Philip L. Rhodes yachts in the mid-Fifties.
Oh yeah...nearly forgot...the owner of CARIN II is asking $295k. Yeah that's what I reckon too. Trying to get any details out of her is like drawing teeth. I'm a betting man myself and my bet is that this boat will end up on the bottom of the Red Sea. Pity - all those oak and teak timbers. But I still reckon she's a great-looking thing. (Enjoyed the Israeli flag!)
 
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Brit Royals are only a bunch of Krauts anyway....Hanovarian inbreds! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Well, apart from Phil the Greek. but he's a special case.........





A head Case /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I remember hearing a story about this yacht - One day Goering was sitting on the yacht and he noticed that the carriage clock on the mantlepiece on the deck had shown the same time for at least 2 hours!

He stands up, face to face with the clock and shouts:


















"VEE HAF VAYS OV MAKING YOU TOCK!"

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That's the problem, isn't it? Everytime she hits the news somewhere it's not because she's any old boat or because she won a price or whatever.
Did that connotation exist in the fifties? I doubt it. But she was marketed afterwards as Goerings yacht. BTW you did so too.

295000 USD you must be kidding!

ps: reply to metronicity of course
 
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We are always warned to get all the original paperwork when buying a boat.
The documentation for this one should be interesting as it was probably not a "normal"sale. You know like the art works, property and gold bullion that also "fell"into Nazi hands.
 
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Agree, the poster did not market this as a classic boat which deserves saving, it was advertised as Goering's boat. I think that is why people may have trouble with it. There are many classic boats out there that could and should be saved, it appears we are being asked to save this because it belongs to one of the architects of the third reich
 
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I hear gordon browns looking for a means of escape! he could blame all his bad decisions on the poor old yacht and its history!!
He would surely find some pc buffons to listen.
As far as i m concerned it is a piece of history like any other object,the problems come from people not objects.
Give a murderer a gun do you destroy the gun and feel you have helped humanity?
How about everyone on here chipping in with a fiver?
Or perhaps the uksa would consider a refit in their colours worked for another dodgy boat?
 
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About as ugly as a Gaff yawl

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Ha! The possibility just does not exist!
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I'm with Howard Chappelle on this. The beauty is in the sheer line. Any vessel designed and built without one looks like a floating pencil box. But look on the bright side. If Karin II was made of GRP or Steel, it'd look really dreadful!

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Agree, the poster did not market this as a classic boat which deserves saving, it was advertised as Goering's boat. I think that is why people may have trouble with it. There are many classic boats out there that could and should be saved, it appears we are being asked to save this because it belongs to one of the architects of the third reich

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I deliberately added the "Goering" bit to get people to read the thread. If you'd bothered to follow the link you would have seen my position on all things Nazi.

Au contraire...I couldn't give a rat's a... who owned it in the past. I think she's truly a classic. You know what it would cost to build something like this today? 90 foot of Burmese Teak over oak?
 
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I deliberately added the "Goering" bit to get people to read the thread.

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I thought that you were a lover of Indonesian Food. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Agree, the poster did not market this as a classic boat which deserves saving, it was advertised as Goering's boat. I think that is why people may have trouble with it. There are many classic boats out there that could and should be saved, it appears we are being asked to save this because it belongs to one of the architects of the third reich


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"I deliberately added the "Goering" bit to get people to read the thread. If you'd bothered to follow the link you would have seen my position on all things Nazi."

"Au contraire...I couldn't give a rat's a... who owned it in the past. I think she's truly a classic. You know what it would cost to build something like this today? 90 foot of Burmese Teak over oak? "

Hi I did read the post and had and still have no doubt your have no sympathies for nazi's. What I said and will stand by is that it was advertised as Goering's boat. You say you added the Goering bit to get people to read the thread but are not interested at all in the fact it was owned by Goering. This does not seem to add up and in addition you have gone to some length on the link to fully explain all the links with nazi's past and present. I like history and enjoy reading about it just not sure this feels right. Simialrly would not be interested in buying Fred West'S boat (if he had one) where the seller went to length to describe the various links Fred West had with it (or any other serial killers for that matter)
The boat is probably worth saving, the nazi connection just does not turn me on.

You are obviously a good guy with his heart in the right place, it was just that this form of promoting the project did not do it for me - best wishes
 
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I deliberately added the "Goering" bit to get people to read the thread.

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I thought that you were a lover of Indonesian Food. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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As it happens I wrote that deliberately too.
 
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I think the project is probably a non-starter. The woman who owns it wants $295k. As we say down under "Tell her she's dreaming" (a line from the Aussie movie "The Castle")
 
The Carin II is a star!

I'd love to help out with the work. Cant put any money in unfortunatly.
Peace from Sweden
 
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that is pretty darn good. suspect I'll be trotting that out too from time to time.

made quite an enjoyable re-read did this thread

still surprised no-one mentioned coca cola's long term support of the hitler youth in the 30's and the national socialists themselves for the first year of the war

any prizes for guessing what the biggest selling soft drink in Israel might be??
 
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