Navionics... $%!#

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Navionics excluded CROATIA and Ionian Greece in this year renewal map when choosing Mediterranean & Black sea.
So if you are sailing Ionian and want to sail to Mykonos you have to buy both map options: Adriatic & Ionian seas for 54.99 plus Mediterranean & Black sea for 24,99

What a shity company
 
I agree its crappy.

Out of interest, what do you think the company should do? Its a high sailing traffic area so the company clearly thinks it can generate more revenue by slicing off regions like this, and will keep shareholders happy through higher profits. Wasn't this kind of thing inevitable when Garmin bought navionics?

Is this a problem of Navionics having a quasi monopolistic position through a lack of effective competition.

Are sailors actually the issue because they don't won't with their feet/wallets and use openCPN instead?
 
Before criticising Navionics, do you know how much Croatia charges for Navionics to use its hydrographic data?
Some countries provide data free (eg USA and Norway?), some charge moderate fees, some seem to charge very high fees (perhaps Denmark?). If Croatia has upped its charges this could be a reason for excluding from the standard Med chart.
Or it could just be charging what the market will pay. There are other alternatives available
 
dunedin said:
The only “monopolies” are the national hydrographic offices who supply the chart data related to their waters. There are multiple alternatives to Navionics.
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Are you sure?
What other charts are available as an app?
 
dunedin said:
Depends on location but for starters - Imray, MemoryMap, SavvyNavy, NV, Garmin (?), etc etc
Loads of them
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Thnskyou, apologies, I’m out of date.
I haven’t heard of anyone using these alternative apps - are they any good?
 
Yealm said:
Thnskyou, apologies, I’m out of date.
I haven’t heard of anyone using these alternative apps - are they any good?
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It depends on
1). Where you sail - as some don’t cover the world but only specific locations (eg Imray, NV, MemoryMap etc)
2). What functionality you want - just basics of viewing charts electronically with position overlaid, or more bells and whistles of automatic routing (not something I want), AIS and NMEA overlays etc
3). Any preferences re vector or raster charts (though the latter may die out in the near future).
For different reasons I have Navionics, MemoryMap, NV and one test app on this iPad - Memory Map most used in a Scotland, NV in the Baltic due to chart availability.
But yes many are pretty good - as is Navionics but it isn’t a monopoly (or necessarily the best for all requirements)
 
Do any
dunedin said:
It depends on
1). Where you sail - as some don’t cover the world but only specific locations (eg Imray, NV, MemoryMap etc)
2). What functionality you want - just basics of viewing charts electronically with position overlaid, or more bells and whistles of automatic routing (not something I want), AIS and NMEA overlays etc
3). Any preferences re vector or raster charts (though the latter may die out in the near future).
For different reasons I have Navionics, MemoryMap, NV and one test app on this iPad - Memory Map most used in a Scotland, NV in the Baltic due to chart availability.
But yes many are pretty good - as is Navionics but it isn’t a monopoly (or necessarily the best for all requirements)
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Do any (vector ones) display rock heights/depths?
 
Yealm said:
Do any

Do any (vector ones) display rock heights/depths?
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It depends. It depends on what data is available. This applies to both raster and vector charts, particularly as the former are now generally created from the vector versions (the hydrographic offices now storing the raw data in vector forma).

Using a random example of the rocks NW of Dorus Mor, my admiralty raster and Navionics vector charts showed the same thing for various rocks, none of which had heights shown, even on the UKHO raster.
 
Just looked at the Navionics app as I have an expired version of the Med & Black Sea chart. Looking at the new version it seems to only be missing Croatia so I would suspect a licensing issue. The new Med and Black Sea chart still appears to cover all of Greece, Montenegro, Slovenia and Albania still.

Try the C-map app I have both and prefer the rendering of the C-MAP charts at they feel less cluttered. Only has Ais from online feed not from Wi-Fi receiver though.
 
boomerangben said:
There’s a C-Map app which has world wide charts (apart from Danish waters)for free on streaming and of course download for a fee.
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Danish waters being restriced license wise: need paid chart/subscription.

The Danish Geodata Agency (Geodatastyrelsen) is Denmark's official producer of nautical charts of the waters surrounding Denmark and Greenland
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I used Savvy Navvy a couple of weeks ago, to get a Rib from Nerano to Positano on my iPhone, worked as expected, not exactly difficult navigation though ! Slick app, looks good, easy to use, might be good as a backup.
 
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