navionics terrain layer removed

[danyb]

Hi guys, I'm new on this forum.
I'm looking for support and I also want to compare my experience using navionics app on phone, tablet and web.
I'm very disappointed with the last update. I don't have anymore what I paid for. Garmin is actually removing many functionality every some time.
I use this app from about 10 years, for work and for fun. I've seen all the changes during the garmin transaction.
The original app was so good that I use it everywhere, also on land . I loved the terrain layer combined to the sonar .

With the last update they removed the terrain layer.

The option available now for the terrain are satellite or no layer. Bing satelite and terrain layer have been removed

I wrote to garmin:
"
Thank you for contacting Garmin Navionics,
As stated in the previous response, the terrain overlay is a land based layer, and the Boating app is primarily a marine navigational tool.
We do understand your disappointment because of not being able to access the overlay when you have been expecting this to be a continuous feature.

However, all our Terms & Conditions include the statement “Navionics reserves the right to amend periodically these CGV by publishing an updated version on the Services. The use of the Services after publishing said amendments will determine the acceptance of the same.”. You can view the full T&C using the following link: Allgemeine Geschäftsbedingungen (AGB) | Garmin. This same page is shown when consulting the T&C in any release/version of our Boating app (Menu > Settings > Information).
Best regards, "

So basically they are telling me that I'm using the app I paid for in the wrong way?
How ,removing maps from a navigation system can be an improvement?

I'm about to abandon this app. Do you guys have any suggestion for a complete app with marine sonar chart and proper terrain layer details?

Thank you

 

[Daverw]

Most find that Navionics give us most of what need to supplement paper or chartplotter, many just use the app and find it just works, especially for the low cost, I’ve never considered looking at using it first land based navigation

 

[[70521]]

Hello and Welcome

I suppose we all navigate in different ways, but the last thing I want to see is the terrain layer on a chart or map.

The beauty of charts and maps is that they simplify a complex amount of data in order to give the user a diagrammatic representation of the world about them.

 

[fredrussell]

I just wish Navionics would get with the times and incorporate saucy ladies in bikinis into their app, you know, like the rest of the internet/boating world.

 

[dunedin]

Hello and Welcome

I suppose we all navigate in different ways, but the last thing I want to see is the terrain layer on a chart or map.

The beauty of charts and maps is that they simplify a complex amount of data in order to give the user a diagrammatic representation of the world about them.

Well actually ……

(A) When anchoring, or indeed often when sailing, it is wise to look at the contours of the land to see whether they may funnel gusts towards the boat; and

(B) RIN, CA, RYA, Tom Cunliffe and others have recommended that boat chart systems should retain shore information and landmarks, to assist with position lines and transits etc, especially necessary in the event of GNSS failure.

 

[requiem]

Unfortunately the sonar charts and to some extent the charts themselves are distinguishing elements of Navionics. Nearly all other apps appear to simply flatten and re-sell the charts from each country's hydrographic office.

My current recommendation for the average / beginner boater is Aqua Map. It runs on both major mobile platforms, offers decent & affordable chart coverage for many countries, and offers integration with boat systems. I haven't found a terrain layer, but apart from the satellite overlay with variable transparency (note the slider) it includes decent shore details. (Zooming in would reveal even the smaller lanes have names.)


If you are interested in land navigation, I've long used Gaia GPS, though that may change as their business model evolves. I've not played with it myself, but OsmAnd is one that might be useful to you for land navigation.

 

[danyb]

Unfortunately the sonar charts and to some extent the charts themselves are distinguishing elements of Navionics. Nearly all other apps appear to simply flatten and re-sell the charts from each country's hydrographic office.

My current recommendation for the average / beginner boater is Aqua Map. It runs on both major mobile platforms, offers decent & affordable chart coverage for many countries, and offers integration with boat systems. I haven't found a terrain layer, but apart from the satellite overlay with variable transparency (note the slider) it includes decent shore details. (Zooming in would reveal even the smaller lanes have names.)
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If you are interested in land navigation, I've long used Gaia GPS, though that may change as their business model evolves. I've not played with it myself, but OsmAnd is one that might be useful to you for land navigation.

Thank you.

 

[danyb]

Hi guys, I get what you say and I agree with you that no llayer is the best option during the navigation close to the coast.

My disappointment is because I'm a boater but also an explorer and a professional diver.
More than 10 years ago I found out that navionics fit all my needs on the boat, during boat diving, for shore diving too. Then i use it to to track my trip by car , air, bike, mx, ferris and skiing too!
Dozen of photo, waipoints and tracks on land .
I hope you now begin to understand the importance on the land layer for me.
I often use the app to discover dive sites with or without shore access, evaluete possible business .
At the moment I cant find any app on the market that combine sonar charts to terrain layer .
At this point I can say that G****n removed from the market the only complete navigation system, fmo
Where is the care for people with special needs?