name of home port on stern

[Dellquay13]

Gosh this is a phoenix thread!

I am thinking of redoing the boat name next winter as it is beginning to show its age. Looking at the ports of registration there are some interesting ones there, Runcorn - reminds me of my ICI days.

I am tempted to put 'of Lyness' due to family history, but perhaps 'of Kirkwall' would be better being an official port of registration. I am Part III registered.

Isn’t the fashion for names ‘of (insert port here)’ down to part1 reg needing the name to be unique, and allows a Sensible Name ‘of (insert port here)’ to be chosen and not have to resort to a garbled misspelled mishmash of a homophone word that is so random it is guaranteed to be unique?

Using the VHF must be a right pita with some of those garbled names, forever having to add ‘I spell, Foxtrot Uniform Charlie’ or whatever to every transmission…

 

[WindyWindyWindy]

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[Mistroma]

Isn’t the fashion for names ‘of (insert port here)’ down to part1 reg needing the name to be unique, and allows a Sensible Name ‘of (insert port here)’ to be chosen and not have to resort to a garbled misspelled mishmash of a homophone word that is so random it is guaranteed to be unique?

Using the VHF must be a right pita with some of those garbled names, forever having to add ‘I spell, Foxtrot Uniform Charlie’ or whatever to every transmission…

Needn't be a port, anything would be OK as ling as it complies with rules prohibiting rude words etc. It is just part of the name.

The port of registry is different and is written under the name.

We used to own Mistroma (Pt1) and could not use Mistroma II for part 1 on next boat. I was told it was only allowed if we currently owned Mistroma. I believe it would have been OK to register and continue to use Mistroma II if we'd sold our old boat after buying and registering the new boat.

The obvious answer was to use Mistroma of and just pick a word that meant something to us and it did not need to be a port.

 

[[70521]]

Isn’t the fashion for names ‘of (insert port here)’ down to part1 reg needing the name to be unique, and allows a Sensible Name ‘of (insert port here)’ to be chosen and not have to resort to a garbled misspelled mishmash of a homophone word that is so random it is guaranteed to be unique?

Using the VHF must be a right pita with some of those garbled names, forever having to add ‘I spell, Foxtrot Uniform Charlie’ or whatever to every transmission…

That's my understanding. Sailing out of a commercial port, Plymouth, I have never heard the registered port mentioned in radio traffic between VTS and ships, but there have been lots of 'interesting' boat names.

 

[Dellquay13]

Needn't be a port, anything would be OK as ling as it complies with rules prohibiting rude words etc. It is just part of the name.

The port of registry is different and is written under the name.

We used to own Mistroma (Pt1) and could not use Mistroma II for part 1 on next boat. I was told it was only allowed if we currently owned Mistroma. I believe it would have been OK to register and continue to use Mistroma II if we'd sold our old boat after buying and registering the new boat.

The obvious answer was to use Mistroma of and just pick a word that meant something to us and it did not need to be a port.

Perhaps I wasn’t specific enough, I know the port named in ‘Boat Name of (place)’ doesn’t need to be a registered port, or even a real place, all it does is make the name unique enough to comply with part1 regs.
You could have the slightly confusing situation of a ‘Boat Name of Nice sounding Place’ with it’s different but actual registered port displayed underneath.
Your chosen ‘Boat Name of (your actual port)’ may have already been registered, so you choose a place that hasn’t been used as part of the name.
You wouldn’t use the full name on routine VHF, you would shorten it to just Boat Name and miss off the ‘of Place’.

I’ve got the irksome situation of my part3 certificate listing my boat name as ‘F for Foxtrot’ because ‘F’ was rejected as too confusing, but it had already been accepted and registered on my ships VHF licence as F and issued an MMSI number, in use long before I applied for part3.
No confusion to me, it’s spelled in the phonetic alphabet, not the Romaic, and obviously pronounced Foxtrot

 

[AngusBrut]

I am not expert, but having a Belgian registered boat I can tell you it is a requirement for me to have the port of registration on the stern and also the registration number on each side in a certain position. I can't see why a foreign registered boat needs to comply to this though. Again, not an expert.

 

[Geoff A]

Under boat name put car GB sticker and an extra large red duster.

 

[[70521]]

Under boat name put car GB sticker and an extra large red duster.

A good use for old GB stickers now we have become UK

 

[rogerthebodger]

I am not expert, but having a Belgian registered boat I can tell you it is a requirement for me to have the port of registration on the stern and also the registration number on each side in a certain position. I can't see why a foreign registered boat needs to comply to this though. Again, not an expert.

We have the same requirement.

I do believe it if aa requirement of the UN law of the sea convention for ships boats operation in international waters.

I also believe that any naval ship can require a ship/boat on the high seas to prove its nationality

Boats that only operate withing the territorial waters of a country do not need registration. This depends on the law of the country concerned

 

[DownWest]

Bit different here. My little sailing boat has to have the name and initials of the 'port of attatchment' in my case LR for La Rochelle on aft quarters, as a double-ender. Mobos have to have the LR plus the registration number on both sides.
My reg number is on a 'makers' plate screwed to the bulkhead.

 

[Hoolie]

When we relocated our boat to France, still on the SSR register, we weren't sure a whether a port label was needed. So, just in case, we chose a port that was recognisable and now have Portsmouth shown as our port of attachment.

 

[Jim@sea]

Forty years ago I helped a friend sail a boat back to the UK from Jersey.
It was a 1973 boat which had been bought in the UK before VAT was introduced.
On the way back from Jersey a tin of paint appeared coincidentally the same colour as the hull and the owner hung upside down over the stern and painted out where it said Jersey.
We carried on to take it back to the UK.
The owner (being in the Motor Trade) subsequently sold it and it went to Brighton.

I heard that there is a VAT Office in Brighton (or there was in 1982) and my friend had a VAT Inspection at his garage,
As I understand it he had kept the importation document which he filled in when he arrived at Holyhead. (which saved him)
He did have to pay VAT on the difference between what he bought it for and what he sold it for.

The VAT Inspector had come all the way up North from Brighton.
So even then they would be checking on boats.