My new project... MFV Elizmor

[daviddb]

Further to our post on this forum thread... .

Thanks for the update; we wait agog!!

 

[chinita]

Ellie stated that Elizmor had been on the hard for 10 years when she bought her last year.

So that would be about right.

I make 1996 to 2013 17 years.

 

[MYStargazer]

... in fact in the intervening time since our last posting there have been significant developments here which could prove to be helpful steps towards launching Elizmor.

WHAT...?!

Floods...?!

 

[Blueboatman]

I make 1996 to 2013 17 years.

Yup. So post-administative goalpost shift, tadaah! With provenance too.

 

[chinita]

I had a mate who spent £80k (at 1990 prices) restoring his similar sized MFV. Not cosmetics, purely hull, deck, rig and lovely old engine.

Absolutely beautiful.

Divorce required a forced sale and he let her go for circa £35k. New owner was a 'writer' and used her a floating office on the Thames for a couple of years.

She was not properly maintained, ending up on a mud berth in Gweek Quay before being sold on for about £3k on eBay.

This new owner sailed her towards Hartlepool mid-winter.

Sprung planks at Chichester, sunk and salvaged by HM. Not sure what happened after that.

This is after just four years of neglect. There is a reason why old MFV are so cheap.

I would like to see the survey report on Elizmor.

 

[Stork_III]

I make 1996 to 2013 17 years.

Preston Marina wrote : "If she did, as is now being suggested (and we do not dispute), arrive in 1997 and was lifted in 2001 then this would mean that this lift ....."

So "only" 12 years.

 

[dylanwinter]

I had a mate who spent £80k (at 1990 prices) restoring his similar sized MFV. Not cosmetics, purely hull, deck, rig and lovely old engine.

Absolutely beautiful.

Divorce required a forced sale and he let her go for circa £35k. New owner was a 'writer' and used her a floating office on the Thames for a couple of years.

She was not properly maintained, ending up on a mud berth in Gweek Quay before being sold on for about £3k on eBay.

This new owner sailed her towards Hartlepool mid-winter.

Sprung planks at Chichester, sunk and salvaged by HM. Not sure what happened after that.

This is after just four years of neglect. There is a reason why old MFV are so cheap.

I would like to see the survey report on Elizmor.

wow.... big wooden boats.... bloody frightening commitments

 

[Blueboatman]

Nope
I grew up and cut my teeth on wood it is immensely forgiving but anathema to ' turn the key and go' after x period of neglect...
Go Ellie go, I did at your age and it creates its own goodwill and momentum, and like a snug wood cottage as bonus..

Ps iirc Those Gardners like 4 good batteries wired to 24 for a good cold crank up

 

[Skipper_Christoph]

... Whilst the image is copyrighted 2014 we don't know how recent this shot is....
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If you have a closer look at the image you can see the date at the bottom edge of the image, here 5/30/2009.

 

[ghostlymoron]

I'm getting bored with this. Nothings going to happen until the boat owner comes up with the money to get the boat lifted in in a safe manner, with appropriate insurances in place and a proper lift plan in place. Prior to this the lifter will have to satisfy himself as to the bearing strength and stability of the ground which may involve putting down some boreholes unless there is current information available.

 

[Spirit of Glenans]

Good info Lakey

Not that straightforward a lift then, either the crane has to reach over several boats which greatly increases the size of the crane and probably insurance costs and/or several boats have to be moved now to give adequate access to the crane, and still the question about the ground.

It looks to me that, logically,the space containing a white mobo and a car, to starboard of the converted MFV moored alongside, is the space cleared for the crane. It's right on the quayside which certainly fits the description.

 

[Spirit of Glenans]

It may still be there.

If not I guess the bloke paid the money.

If you mean the one moored, who knows if it ever was on the hard. Whilst the image is copyrighted 2014 we don't know how recent this shot is.

There was mention of a big boat nearby scheduled for a lift in February.

If you look to starboard of the converted MFV in the water, which, in comparison to Elizmor's 50', appears to be 58', you will see a motor vessel on the hard which by the same comparison seems to be 66'. I would imagine this is the one scheduled to be lifted in February.

 

[fisherman]

It looks to me that, logically,the space containing a white mobo and a car, to starboard of the converted MFV moored alongside, is the space cleared for the crane. It's right on the quayside which certainly fits the description.

That pic is way out of date now, 2009 I think. JE says, in #286, p.29, the ground and space are agreed to be OK, it's just the insurance and cost thereof, without which no responsible contractor will do the lift.

 

[chinita]

Those Gardners like 4 good batteries wired to 24 for a good cold crank up

I think you are serving to illustrate my point. How much are four good batteries going to cost?

The engine is said to be in 'full working order'. When was it last run, under load, for any meaningful period of time?

Like many, I only wish good luck.

But I feel that luck will have very little part to play in this project.

 

[chinita]

Those Gardners like 4 good batteries wired to 24 for a good cold crank up

I think you are serving to illustrate my point. How much are four good batteries going to cost?

The engine is said to be in 'full working order'. When was it last run, under load, for any meaningful period of time?

Like many, I only wish good luck.

But I feel that luck will have very little part to play in this project.

 

[KevO]

That pic is way out of date now, 2009 I think. JE says, in #286, p.29, the ground and space are agreed to be OK, it's just the insurance and cost thereof, without which no responsible contractor will do the lift.

Then the obvious answer is... as had been said several times before on this thread, pay up or stay put... If that's the cost, then that's the cost

 

[alahol2]

If that's the cost, then that's the cost

At this level the cost is never the cost until all negotiation is exhausted.

 

[KevO]

At this level the cost is never the cost until all negotiation is exhausted.

True enough... but it sounds like it has been. Get quotes from several potential providers, haggle for the best possible deal between them, then pay it and get the job done.

 

[Lakesailor]

True enough... but it sounds like it has been. Get quotes from several potential providers, haggle for the best possible deal between them, then pay it and get the job done.

This is the sticking point.

Again, despite the fact that Ellie has lived on board a boat for some time, I think the up-scaling of costs involved in a bigger boat has been a surprise.

 

[dylanwinter]

I think you are serving to illustrate my point. How much are four good batteries going to cost?

The engine is said to be in 'full working order'. When was it last run, under load, for any meaningful period of time?

Like many, I only wish good luck.

But I feel that luck will have very little part to play in this project.

when I saw the resources an 18 foot Mirror offshore could swallow then the thought of Elizmor is truly terrifying

as for the silence from the Ellie end...

and the wording from Preston

I see the tracks of lawyers on this one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cease_and_desist

I just want Preston to know that I will happily use them in the future

Kudu was there I believe and was very happy - it looks like a great place to base a small boat and in my eyes their reputation has not been damaged at all by the length of this thread