My new project... MFV Elizmor

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Looks a fantastic boat (as it appears to be in good structural condition) and wish Ellie all the best with her. Seems like one giant faff all-round getting the ol girl back in the water. I'm sure it will all be worth the stress once she's floating.
 
I don't think anyone has behaved badly or been particularly difficult in this matter. Utube has a large selection of videos of crane lifts that have gone wrong. The timing of the intended lift just after the Christmas break did not help.

I would hope that a ground surveyor can be found for some sensible money. If the ground is assessed then the risk is more quantifiable.
 
ean_p said:
well perhaps it's best not to say what you think on an open forum!
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Definitely not on this forum anyway, unless you want a red card or two weeks in the dungeons at IC Tower with some infamous forumites (and PaulineB) - oh, er chains, whips and thigh length high heeled boots stop it, stop it..
 
It's amazing when a heavy lift goes wrong that people believe they can rush in and push the lift away. It happens in my industry, by people who should know better, with disastrous results for the person involved. A client has what they call “Lifesaving Rules”, there are 12 of them, if you break them, you can get sacked or reeducated. They were derived from the few things that actually kill workers and there is one for lifting operations: “Never stand under a lifted object”. Now this might appear eminently sensible but if I had a dollar for every person who stands watching a lift, then walks under it as soon as it’s a few meters above the ground, I would be very wealthy; no concept of danger at all.

The lesson here is stay away from heavy lifts, the stored energy is incredible and we are just squishy things filled with mostly water behind some easily punctured coverings.


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BlowingOldBoots said:
It's amazing when a heavy lift goes wrong that people believe they can rush in and push the lift away. It happens in my industry, by people who should know better, with disastrous results for the person involved. A client has what they call “Lifesaving Rules”, there are 12 of them, if you break them, you can get sacked or reeducated. They were derived from the few things that actually kill workers and there is one for lifting operations: “Never stand under a lifted object”. Now this might appear eminently sensible but if I had a dollar for every person who stands watching a lift, then walks under it as soon as it’s a few meters above the ground, I would be very wealthy; no concept of danger at all.

The lesson here is stay away from heavy lifts, the stored energy is incredible and we are just squishy things filled with mostly water behind some easily punctured coverings.
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Oh yes indeed. See a recent thread started with the question (paraphrased) "Can my club stop inspecting the crane? We only ever lift things like masts and engines, so up to 400kg." Now, I admit that I haven't seen a 400kg engine fall ten feet into the cockpit of a GRP boat, but I have a vivid imagination. Which refuses even to contemplate the fate of the bloke in the cockpit ... There was also the opprobrium heaped on the yacht club member who sued his club after he was seriously injured when a lifting operation went wrong, as if that sort of mishap is inevitable.

The rules about lifting equipment are there for good reasons, and they are written in blood.
 
BlowingOldBoots said:
It's amazing when a heavy lift goes wrong that people believe they can rush in and push the lift away. It happens in my industry, by people who should know better, with disastrous results for the person involved. A client has what they call “Lifesaving Rules”, there are 12 of them, if you break them, you can get sacked or reeducated. They were derived from the few things that actually kill workers and there is one for lifting operations: “Never stand under a lifted object”. Now this might appear eminently sensible but if I had a dollar for every person who stands watching a lift, then walks under it as soon as it’s a few meters above the ground, I would be very wealthy; no concept of danger at all.

The lesson here is stay away from heavy lifts, the stored energy is incredible and we are just squishy things filled with mostly water behind some easily punctured coverings.
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But they'll be alright. They wear plastic hard hats and steel toe caps.
 
Never mind a heavy lift-I was lifting a mooring block of my trailer which weighed about 1.7 tons according to the weighing sensor on a crane that lifted it later.
I was using a certified 2 ton chain block(all be it from outside Europe.
I made sure I was no where near when lifting apart from one point when getting the trailer away from under the block.
So there it was three foot off the ground then it was on the ground as the supposedly certified chain snapped!
 
We have to lift out the gates at Porthleven with a 3500 Hi ab, eight pieces each about two tons. The crane safety man asked us what do we do to keep the general public out of the area (Which is chained off with warning signs) HM replied "Shoot 'em". Nothing else seems to work.
 
fisherman said:
We have to lift out the gates at Porthleven with a 3500 Hi ab, eight pieces each about two tons. The crane safety man asked us what do we do to keep the general public out of the area (Which is chained off with warning signs) HM replied "Shoot 'em". Nothing else seems to work.
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If only!
Not heavy lifting related, but we used traffic cones and tape around the club dance floor when resurfacing/finishing , still a member hopped over the tape and walked across the wet varnish while it was still being applied. " Oh I didn't realise.. " despite the tape.

Some people wear mental blinkers.
 
I held up the rush hour and got told off fro not continueing to drive down the high street under a container being swung out across the street.If somethings goibg to fall its sods law it will fall on somebody...
 
chewi said:
If only!
Not heavy lifting related, but we used traffic cones and tape around the club dance floor when resurfacing/finishing , still a member hopped over the tape and walked across the wet varnish while it was still being applied. " Oh I didn't realise.. " despite the tape.

Some people wear mental blinkers.
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You'd be surprised by the number of people who duck under "Police - Do not cross" tape.
"Excuse me, what do you think you're doing?"
"Oh, officer, I just want to get over there"

Morons.
 
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