My new project... MFV Elizmor

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a very fair and technical response from Preston marina that actually gives you the way forward. I will admit to putting 2+2 together and coming up with 22 here.

if you have the ground validated by someone competent to assess it such that you can then get insurance to cover the potential risk to the plant in case of ground failure then you have ticked all the boxes and can get the boat launched.

This is the missing piece of the jigsaw, it will cost money, you will have to pay for it but it will get you launched.

Did Ainscough include this element in their £6k quote accounting for the additional cost? otherwise I agree they are expensive in this case.

But you now know what you have to do to make the crane lift happen and, you can look for best value, but otherwise, I don't think you have a choice here.
 
sundancer123 said:
You buy a boat like that ................50-60 tonnes ...and big....with little knowledge of that type of vessel.....you do the research on........survey,launch costs etc.... first..not after you have foolishly paid for it...and you dont beg for charity for equipment etc to get it afloat after the event............hippy hand out attitude
.....bit SAD....not a bargain on the hard after all..................................
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If I could drag you away from your Daily Mail for a moment...

Ellie is providing real value to her astute sponsors. She gives them exposure in the same way as tradition advertising - which in this sector isn't cheap. And she does this through creativity and hard work. It's about clicks these days. And given her obvious talent and hard work, the suppliers are getting the better end of the deal.
 
:encouragement:

Sometimes, just sometimes, boats are bought on a whim or perhaps a 'spark' or 'dream' in someone's imagination; often the 'rationale' for Buying / acquiring the boat maybe difficult for 'others' to see or understand, or agree personally with; but its all 'in the eye of the beholder', their dream so to say.

So in these circumstances there are believers and non believers in the /any project; never the 'twain' shall meet; so tis not a case of persuading the 'buyer' that they could do better, and /or they have made a mistake; tis a 'dream' in the eye of the beholder, and with enough perseverance, determination, lateral thinking, encouragement, help, assistance, well intentioned suggestions, luck, the Dream can come true. :encouragement:

I am always dumfounded when a rotting 'wreck' is recovered from the mud somewhere and the 'rescuers' proclaim that they have saved the Vessel and intend to 'restore' it to its former glory; I personally do not give them a 'hell of a chance', but they do.

Pour not 'scorn' on those with 'dreams', for they might see, in their 'dreams', something wonderful : encouragement:
 
EuanMcKenzie said:
a very fair and technical response from Preston marina that actually gives you the way forward. I will admit to putting 2+2 together and coming up with 22 here.

if you have the ground validated by someone competent to assess it such that you can then get insurance to cover the potential risk to the plant in case of ground failure then you have ticked all the boxes and can get the boat launched.

This is the missing piece of the jigsaw, it will cost money, you will have to pay for it but it will get you launched.

Did Ainscough include this element in their £6k quote accounting for the additional cost? otherwise I agree they are expensive in this case.

But you now know what you have to do to make the crane lift happen and, you can look for best value, but otherwise, I don't think you have a choice here.
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I reckon Preston Marina are being very fair indeed. There are other places who would not entertain another contracor being brought in privately.

I think they are also spot on in connecting the urgency/cost dilemma. Given more time a way that may be less expensive may become available.
 
I take my hat off to Ellie... she's a lot braver than I am that's for sure. My boat cost me about 12k and I've spent at least that on her again in the last year or so... and she didn't need that much doing to start with... :rolleyes:

I hope she gets it all squared away smoothly but I suspect the only solution is 'suck it up and pay up' to break the current impasse. As they say, 'the size of the boat is directly proportional to the size of the hole in the ocean into which you throw bundles of notes'.
 
Ellie's done nothing that anyone else couldn't have done...IF they'd had the gumption. I find it incredible that so many peoples opinion have done a 180 after one post. A post that I thought was fair, balanced, helpful and honourable.
There's a lot of jealousy of a clever, determined person.
 
I really don't see why all the hype about JE situation . Can someone please clarify If the boat can be launched if JE coughs up For the insurance ? Yes or No
 
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well exactly, I thought JE's expectation of having her boat dropped back in for sub 4k was and is a perfectly reasonable assumption.
It strikes me that ...... well perhaps it's best not to say what you think on an open forum!


saltylegs said:
I do feel for Ellie, as I arranged for a lift of 2 large gas tanks in May last year with a 200 tonne crane, 2 hours travel and 4 hours on job, total cost just under 2K.
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Goes without saying that I hope that a solution is soon found to this horrible situation. The lift in of Elizmore is such as a mountain being made out of a molehill and is a inherited situation from the original owner. For example I see that the Clyderiver Boatyard at Clydebank have a 75 ton hoist and charge £19 a metre for the size of boat. Best in future to use such a boatyard for future lift out and storage if required. I would also assume similiar type boatyards charges exist in the south of the UK. Good luck to Ellie.
 
sorry old chap ! , " does this mean that no one will touch a big boat on the hard with a smelly stick " for not a load of money .
 
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