My new project... MFV Elizmor

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mystique said:
Your challenge is getting the boat out again pronto if it doesn't float as well as anticipated ;)
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The drop is excessive as well, (see streetview) unless a big tide would help. The outer basin has gates, so water can be kept in. All down to pumps, even if craned in JE can't afford to hoick it out again.
 
The slide-it-in idea is fraught with problems. The point loading on the quay edge stones will be massive. If they crack Ellie will have to pay for the repair which will be way more than the ground survey cost.
The stern on the boat may dig in, leaving the boat propped up on the quay, requiring...a crane lift. It could break it's back or if it rolled onto a bilge could crack frames and spring boards. It's an oldish boat that has been supporting it's own weight for a dozen years. When back in the water amd weighing effectively 1/3rd less and being supported by the water under it's planking the shape may alter slightly. The hog, having been in compression for so long, it may now drop to where it used to be.

It'll be an exciting couple of weeks until everything stops moving.
 
Google may indicate areas of shallow and mud. (I can't quite see..) anyone know the basin?

It was perfectly normal with wooden boats to launch and move them to a mud berth and let em take up.
If the keel sits on the bottom in some basin corner against the wall and then they drop the water just a few inches, the boats topsides will not ( cannot) become immersed nor can the boat 'sink'.



It's just that the world of current experience has moved on from the familiar handling of wood vessels day to day. Sensibly the OP states she has 'wet' the bilges once already to start the take up process. And this wet winter is actually a wood boats friend. Baking summers without tarpaulins and shade are less helpful ( but we all knew that)
 
Lakesailor said:
The slide-it-in idea is fraught with problems. The point loading on the quay edge stones will be massive. If they crack Ellie will have to pay for the repair which will be way more than the ground survey cost.
The stern on the boat may dig in, leaving the boat propped up on the quay, requiring...a crane lift. It could break it's back or if it rolled onto a bilge could crack frames and spring boards. It's an oldish boat that has been supporting it's own weight for a dozen years. When back in the water amd weighing effectively 1/3rd less and being supported by the water under it's planking the shape may alter slightly. The hog, having been in compression for so long, it may now drop to where it used to be.
It'll be an exciting couple of weeks until everything stops moving.
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Yerbut, APART from all the above.....
 
Lakesailor said:
It is next to the water. It just needs a ground survey paying for.
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It's all about the weight, presumably they have a crane that can lift boats up to a certain limit.

All that needs to be done is to lower the weight to that limit. Take the ballast out and fill her with helium balloons.
 
mystique said:
I'd hardly describe it as abuse..."robust opinion" maybe ;)
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Yes, I agree, apart from one poster, there's been no abuse at all, just robust opinion which didn't (by and large) start appearing until Ellie went AWOL which happened immediately after Preston Marina made their own post putting their side of Ellie's story, she hasn't posted since. As some of us have said, everyone hopes Ellie gets her boat launched but this appears to rely on finding herself a philanthropist or shelling out herself for a ground survey and appropriate craneage.
 
parsifal said:
Hardly surprising if she has stopped viewing this thread, given the abuse she has been subject to.
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So, if you were in JE's position - would you have taken your ball home and disappeared from the face of the earth?

or would you have kept up the discourse, offering thanks for positive contributions and challenging the negatives?

Was it really the abuse or the open letter from Preston Marina which prompted the (in)action?
 
chinita said:
So, if you were in JE's position - would you have taken your ball home and disappeared from the face of the earth?

or would you have kept up the discourse, offering thanks for positive contributions and challenging the negatives?

Was it really the abuse or the open letter from Preston Marina which prompted the (in)action?
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I think it is a shame she has stopped posting IMO she has lost all creditability by doing so. OK she has a problem which can only be solved by throwing money at it. I do feel sorry for her if cannot do this, and I would not wish this situation on anyone.
Lets hope it all works out in the end.
 
chinita said:
So, if you were in JE's position - would you have taken your ball home and disappeared from the face of the earth?

or would you have kept up the discourse, offering thanks for positive contributions and challenging the negatives?

Was it really the abuse or the open letter from Preston Marina which prompted the (in)action?
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Masterful silence IMO
 
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