moving outboards from a dinghy to the yacht ?

[Guest]

Hello,

thankyou for everyones response to my post regarding my A level design project. I am still considering ideas so any more suggestions would be helpful please.
At the moment i am considering the following problem.
Does anyone find it difficult moving an outboard from a dinghy up onto the back of a yacht , especially in choppy conditions ? if a product was on the market that made this easy would you buy it and how much would you see as a reasonable amount to pay for this ?

your feedback on this would be greatly appreciated.

matt.

 

[rogerroger]

design or marketing ?

I thought you were doing a design project ? why would you need to know much much people would be prepared to pay ?


Roger Holden
www.first-magnitude.co.uk

 

[Gunfleet]

Re: design or marketing ?

So he knows how much he can budget. Or is he really a 45 year old capitalist fat cat? I think he might be about to invent a tackle to go on the end of the boom. What? People already do that? Drat! Back to the drawing board.

 

[hlb]

This problem is solved by the use of davits. Cant understand why more yacht arn't fitted with them. I watch the ritual of getting the dinghy out from down below. Blowing it up, then doing the balancing act with the outboard. And all for half an hour at the pub. Stick davits on the back and it's just splosh and away.

No one can force me to come here-----------
----- I'm a Volunteer!!!

Haydn

 

[rogerroger]

but they're very expensive aren't they ? and not very appropriate on a smaller yacht...

Roger Holden
www.first-magnitude.co.uk

 

[Rob_Webb]

Indeed davits are the ideal solution but not really practical on most yachts below about 35ft for reasons of space, appearance and (ususally) economic priorities!

When passing the outboard between my boat and dingy, I have a lanyard tied between the outboard and the boat until the engine is safely secured on either boat or tender. In a couple of extreme situations I have simply used a spare mast halyard to assist the transfer.

 

[kgi]

ther is on the market a device that looks not unlike a hang mans gallows, that fits in a socket on the transom adjacent to the outboard, you hook the outboard on swivel the whole shebang over the side and lower away with a multipart tackle onto transom of dink, when not in use it is stowed below. the problem with davits is 1they seriously affect the trim of the boat when you have a dingy and outboard hanging over the back. 2 when it rains they fill with water and then you refer to number1 3 if you get caught in bad weather and, heavenforbid it never happens, you take a wave over the stern/side the weight in the dink may well tear the transom out of the boat.............just a thought..........keith

 

[jsl]

So there really is a market for something cheaper and more ingenious than a small permanent crane/derrick on the corner of the pushpit. Perhaps it should use existing items? Perhaps it should be made of materials cheaper than stainless steel? Some sort of bracket for turning two dinghy oars into a derrick or gantry? Something that slings the outboard over the side, and not over the transom? Something that stows neatly, or turns into another useful item. The absolute ideal would be a device powered by the outboard itself, but that is presumably impossible.

 

[Sinbad1]

I think you have hit on a brilliant idea. Use the outboard. The prop could rotate so that instead of pushing the dinghy forward/reverse, it pushes itself vertically, like a helicopter. By careful use of the throttle and the tilt mechanism you could actually hover, climb and get to the exact locate for stowage without having to use muscle power!!! Then shut the throttle and not only is the outboard on the boat but you too have been lifted clear.

Just hope the bloody throttle doesn't stick.

brmmmmmmmm brmmmmmmmm we have lift off......

 

[Rob_Webb]

Please let me know when and where you trial the prototype - I'd like to bring some friends and some beers and watch.......!

 

[DoctorD]

Re: design or marketing ?

Because we live in a commercial world.

I like the following (much copied and altered) definition:

"An engineer (/product designer) is someone who can do for £5 what any fool can do for £100"

Or I suppose he could design an atomic powered winch made from titanium

Graham

 

[tonyleigh]

Interesting thread but why should the solution be in a bit of gear to effect the transfer? Should it not encompass a possible re-design of the outboard or the boat? Afterall 100% of the design is concerned with powering a small dinghy while for much of its life the outboard sits on the pushpit or is being transferred to/from?

 

[toad]

All the equipment is normally onboard,all you need is a good carbine hook between the mainsheet and traveller.Unhook from traveller swing boom over the side hook on to engine pull on mainsheet and swing inboard.I allways have a safety line just in case.