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Forbsie You know you want to be the first on the Lower Thames to fit some. Only word of advice ... dont switch them on when you're coming back from the pub. The River Police will see them!

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Don't know about Shintaray, but I'll definitely consider them for this beer scooter that magics me home from the pub every night. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Like them, as nobody else seems to have asked I am thinking of buying a Phantom 50, any idea of the cost of a similar system fitted.
Thanks Mike
 
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Like them, as nobody else seems to have asked I am thinking of buying a Phantom 50, any idea of the cost of a similar system fitted.
Thanks Mike

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Good choice of boat - not sure about the lights /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

JFM - I like the bow chairs /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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Tee hee! You spotted it SV! Best seats in the house!. Fantastic sundowner G+T spot. Table top is an offcut of teak-faced board lying around at EBY, varnished lots by me. Pedestal is bit of tube with a foot custom machined from a block of solid nylon; it just clamps onto the anchor chain slot so I haven't drilled any holes in the boat, yet it's very rigid and you can still operate the anchor. Table can be left up underway or stows into the anchor locker in about 20 seconds /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Here's a pic - apols for the ubercheesiness: a mate set it up and took it, not me :-)
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Al, sorry, I dont have any F1 pics. Long story, too dull for here, but I couldn't/didn't go.

Clive, yes you can fit them yourself and Lumishore will sell for self-fitting. It's not difficult, but you need to think carefully about where to put them and invariably you have to work around all the rudder gubbins typically found in the back of a boat. But you just work that out, drill 25mm holes, install with sikaflex goo, install the driver electronics box somewhere hidden, install the control panel somewhere, add a 12/24v supply, and away you go. Easily done by anyone who is ok with boat fixing and stuff.
 
mikesyam, I should know the cost but I don't. My price was a special deal whereby I committed to set #1 of an untried product (though that was no worry - when you inspect these you'll see the engineering is top stuff. no corners cut at all), I offered to help as demonstrator, and I know the 2 principals behind the business, one of whom is EME of this parish

You'd have to ask Lumishore. There are lots of variables that affect the price: 2 or 4 lights; different power ratings, one colour or RGB mixable, one or 2 control panels, etc

Labourwise a boat yard or good diyer would easily install them in a day, and of course you need a crane-out

To give some rough guidance for the set up on my boat the installed price would be north of £10k I think. Quite big numbers but it is a very premium product with zero competitors. No-one else on the planet makes this product, and having observed some of the R&D and engineering I'd be confident the closest competitor wont be making this product any time soon. :-)
 
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when you want a night time swim they're beautiful. Lots of classic boats that are concerned about blingyness (s/y Meteor comes to mind) have them

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But apropos of night swims, just a few days ago I had one from my boat, with a friend of mine whose boat is fitted with u/w lights, albeit just white ones.
And you know what? He was surprised by how nicer my cheap alternative (which I already explained in this thread) is, compared to u/w lights fitted on the hull.
Nicer according to him, I mean. He confirmed me what I already suspected: stern u/w lights are actually a bit disturbing, while swimming back towards the boat.
I should have the opportunity to make a comparison myself in a couple of weeks, when I'll be on his boat.
I'll post my impressions afterwards, maybe he was just being kind with my low tech solution and stern lights are actually better, 'dunno...
 
Yup, "classic" isn't quite the right term for Meteor/Borkumriff, but you know what I mean. "Classically-inspired" I think :-) Talking of which, and drifting, Maria Cattiva has a new owner, new crew including a stewardess who is a friend of mine and will be busy sailing from Palma starting anytime now instead of stuck to the dock

Back to lights. Yes, if you are down at the waterline, swimming, and look directly at these lights, esp on white and high power, they are too bright. Each one is 130w of which perhaps 20w is heat and 110w is light. That is an order of magnitude brighter than the best car headlight, for example. So you definitely wouldn't want to look right at them as you swim towards the boat. The flipside is that your illuminated night time swimming pool can be something like 30mx30m, much bigger than your diving torch set up. Also these lights are fully controllable - you can set each of the RGB channels (individually or together) to anything from 1% to 100% using the digital control panel, very easily, so if you want just the power of the dive torch you can have that
 
What a great idea with the bow cocktail table!

I at first thought that you'd attached it to the guard rails. I think I'm going to copy you, if you don't mind!
 
I'm delighted that JFM thinks his lights are worth that much ... maybe I should put the prices up!

Our lights range in 'wattage' from 18-120 watts ( details on the website require updating as we have added a number of new models notably flush-fit and colour change).

Recommended Retail Prices Prices for our Stainless Steel 316 / Aluminium Bronze products range from £199 - £6,899 ( plus VAT). By way of example the two applications you see on the photos are :-

Fairline Squadron 58 - Set of 4 x-120 in Aluminium Bronze (3 channels at 60 watts per channel) Colour-Change (including Controller, drivers etc) - £6,899 and
Rib - 2 off x-36 Drivelite - £598

and loads of other options dependent upon your boat obviously. It goes without saying that any YBW forum member who is interested should PM me about specific pricing for their boats.

For those of you who are familiar with our comeptitors' products and pricing they will know what amazing prices our lights are even in solid colours. Excellent value but I would say that ! Lumishore are the only company who do Colour-Change units for underwater boat lighting.
Mikesyam Ill send you a pm.
 
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So jfm, I have to ask the obvious question - when are you going to extend the colour-change functionality to your deck led's - so that you can sync your u/w and deck colours...? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif (I can't believe this isn't something you haven't already considered...)

Cheers
Jimmy
 
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So jfm, I have to ask the obvious question - when are you going to extend the colour-change functionality to your deck led's - so that you can sync your u/w and deck colours...? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif (I can't believe this isn't something you haven't already considered...)

Cheers
Jimmy

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And those deck lights do look very blue, could jfm be a closet blue fan after all........? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Got a way to go to compete with RogerRat, shown here moored in Sparkes, looking from East Head

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Glad you like it! Feel free to copy - I'm sure I have seen the idea in various places so I copied it too!

It's not attached to the guardrails. It's just supported by its own central pillar. Looks nicer that way, imho

As I say, best seats in the house. Lovely sundowner spot, away from the madding crowds :-)
 
Ah, thanks for correcting. Well, I reckon they're worth £10k :-)

Just in case anyone is confused by the power, a few comments:

1. The 3 channels (RGB) are 60w each. so you can have 60w of any of those primary colours. But the overall unit is rated at 120W, not 180W, and that's becuase when you select white (R+G+B) the driver limits the output to 66% to avoid overheating and heavy battery draw, so the electronics cap the combined power of all the channels at 120W. In fact, the technical guy at the company said mine are capped a bit higher than 120W max, hence my mention of 130 above

2. All these watt figures are not "equivalents" to incandescent bulbs. They are true electricity draw levels, and as there is only a small amount of heat generated these watts are real watts of light. When you buy a 60w lampbulb is it 50w of heat and 10W of light. When you have a 60W Lumishore light it is 50W of light and 10W of heat, approx
 
I've thought about it Jimmy but it is too much work (running the wires) and too blingy, so it's down at #101 on my jobs list. Thanks for the idea though!

Some lumishores (4x the biggest drivelights maybe?) would look good on Vega :-)
 
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